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Old 14-07-2008, 09:44 AM
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iPhone 3G OS Bugs

After yet another Safari crash on the train this morning, I though to start a thread that can track all of the known software issues in the iPhone OS.

The rules are simple: Reply to this thread with a line describing the bug. It should start with "NEW" in bold and in blue, followed by a type and then followed by a short description.

The types are:

Crash - Any bug that causes the iPhone to crash or causes an Apple application to crash.
Freeze - Any bug that causes the iPhone to freeze requiring a hard reboot.
Defect - A bug that is not a crash or a freeze.
Cosmetic - A design flaw or some other cosmetic issue in the OS.

Following this line, you should include steps to reproduce the bug, if possible. For example:

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NEW - Defect - Browsing with Mobile Safari while playing music can cause the music to skip.

Steps to reproduce: Start music in the iPod application. Open Safari and load a large page, such as Digg.com. Tilt iPhone to the side to force it to render in landscape mode. The music should skip.
I will initially list your bug as NEW. To verify the bug, you will need two (2) other MacTalk members duplicate the bug and post in this thread referencing your post stating it is REPRODUCABLE along with any other notes they wish to add. Once your bug has been verified, please edit your post and change the state REPRODUCABLE after it, and mention the two people who have verified your bug.

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REPRODUCABLE - Defect - Browsing with Mobile Safari while playing music can cause the music to skip.

Steps to reproduce: Start music in the iPod application. Open Safari and load a large page, such as Digg.com. Tilt iPhone to the side to force it to render in landscape mode. The music should skip.

Reproduced by Currawong and Decryption
Bugs will have 4 states. NEW, REPRODUCED, CONFIRMED, FIXED and NOTABUG

Confirmed bugs are bugs that have been acknowledged officially by Apple. If you find a note somewhere on Apple's site, or on Radar, that confirms the existence of a bug, let me know and I'll confirm it on this list.

Fixed bugs are bugs that have been fixed either in a beta release of the iPhone OS or by a current release. These bugs will be archived to another post in this thread, once they are fixed by a given firmware update.

NOTABUG is assigned to issues that have nobody able to reproduce it, and at least two MacTalk users who are able to prove that it is working 'as designed' - or the bug is actually a hardware issue.

I'm not sure how good of an idea this is or if it will be too much work for me, but we'll see.

Notes:

for my sanity, please keep things short. Discussion about a particular bug is fine, but please keep it on topic. Thanks.

This thread is for iPhone OS Firmware issues ONLY. Please do not report physical defects such as dodgy switches or loose buttons or dead pixels. Only the iPhone Operating System Firmware (2.0, currently) and the Applications bundled with it are covered by this thread.
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REPRODUCABLE - Defect - 'Contacts' are very slow to initialize/start up from both 'Contacts' menu and when interfacing from 'phone' app. (Cybix)

NEW - Defect - Browsing with Mobile Safari while playing music can cause the music to skip. (chrome)
NEW - Defect - 3rd Party headphones cause music to pause/un-pause during playback (Quamen)
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Reserved for archived bug list
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Old 14-07-2008, 09:54 AM
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NEW - Defect - Browsing with Mobile Safari while playing music may cause the music to skip.

Steps to reproduce: Start music in the iPod application. Open Safari and load a large page, such as Digg.com. Tilt iPhone to the side to force it to render in landscape mode while it is loading the page. The music may skip.

EDIT: This might be hard to reproduce. My music is mostly ripped at 320kbps, so try with a track using a high bitrate.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:18 AM
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NEW - Defect - 'Contacts' are very slow to initialize/start up from both 'Contacts' menu and when interfacing from 'phone' app.

Steps to reproduce: just try scrolling through your contacts and see the lag. Not cool when showing off to friends.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:28 AM
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Can i note something:

Some of the things you note are not bugs. They are responses to memory warnings.

(I think I am out of NDA on this stuff!)

OK, Safari may "Crash" but what is really going on: Your iPhone detects that it is low on memory and sends a message to all programs calling that there is a memory warning. The program will shut down any unneccesary services, and see if it can help it (that is, if someone programmed it to respond in this way)
If the memory is still too limited, the OS will force the program to quit.

This is not a bug. This is the OS making sure it will not completely crash itself.
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NEW - Defect - 'Contacts' are very slow to initialize/start up from both 'Contacts' menu and when interfacing from 'phone' app.

Steps to reproduce: just try scrolling through your contacts and see the lag. Not cool when showing off to friends.
Reproduced. I have 43 contacts, it takes about 8 seconds before it will actually scroll.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:31 AM
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NEW - Defect - 'Contacts' are very slow to initialize/start up from both 'Contacts' menu and when interfacing from 'phone' app.

Steps to reproduce: just try scrolling through your contacts and see the lag. Not cool when showing off to friends.
Reproducible, also I've found it's a longer delay if I'm pushing my contacts over Mobile Me.

Edit: 78 contacts
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:33 AM
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Can i note something:

Some of the things you note are not bugs. They are responses to memory warnings.

(I think I am out of NDA on this stuff!)

OK, Safari may "Crash" but what is really going on: Your iPhone detects that it is low on memory and sends a message to all programs calling that there is a memory warning. The program will shut down any unneccesary services, and see if it can help it (that is, if someone programmed it to respond in this way)
If the memory is still too limited, the OS will force the program to quit.

This is not a bug. This is the OS making sure it will not completely crash itself.
Yes and no. I'm only concerned with applications supplied by Apple. Browsing common sites shouldn't caue Mobile Safari to silently quit. Accessing your AB shouldn't cause IT to silently quit, either. Its still a bug.

I understand what you're saying here, but if the application is not managing it's memory correctly and the iPhone is shooting it in the head because of that, it's still a bug.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:40 AM
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NEW - Defect - 3rd Party headphones cause music to pause/un-pause during playback

Steps to reproduce:

Get 3rd party headphones (I have Etymotic E6i's).
Listen to music.
Bump headphones occasionally.

I can reproduce this intermittently.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:41 AM
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I understand what you're saying here, but if the application is not managing it's memory correctly and the iPhone is shooting it in the head because of that, it's still a bug.
You don't know if it is an Apple application that is leaking memory though. It's just a system wide call to tell whatever app is running to quit so that the phone itself doesn't crash.
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Exactly. It doesn't have to be that app, and even then, it could be. That could be the bug - just make sure you know what the bug is. The bug is not that it crashes, but that there is a memory leak somewhere. Don't imply that it is the crash itself that is the issue.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:57 AM
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Will add another status : NOTABUG.

If there is nobody who can reproduce your bug and 2 MacTalk members can prove it is not a bug, then it will be listed as such.
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:58 AM
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I will attempt to get these bugs reported to the iPhone Software Department so I can avoid all the riff-raff of the boards at apple.com
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Old 14-07-2008, 10:59 AM
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NEW - Defect - 3rd Party headphones cause music to pause/un-pause during playback

Steps to reproduce:

Get 3rd party headphones (I have Etymotic E6i's).
Listen to music.
Bump headphones occasionally.

I can reproduce this intermittently.
i'm pretty sure that previous iPods had this issue - the headphone port was too loose (or the earphone jack was too thin!!) which made the iPod think that the earphones had been removed. does it happen with the Apple supplied ones?
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