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Old 06-07-2008, 11:18 AM
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AT&T has announced through the pages of Infoworld (tinyurl.com/59xglf) that it will charge $US599 ($622) for an 8GB device and $US699 ($726) for a 16GB iPhone not on contract.

The 16GB iPhone is about $200 cheaper in the US than here.


So for France, the US and Australia, the following prices:
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="10" rules="none" frame="void"> <colgroup><col width="59"><col width="51"><col width="47"><col width="41"><col width="44"><col width="53"><col width="73"><col width="61"><col width="56"><col width="59"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="left" width="59" height="18">Model</td> <td align="left" width="51"> Orange</td> <td align="left" width="47"> X-rate</td> <td align="left" width="41"> AUD</td> <td align="left" width="44"> Optus</td> <td align="left" width="53"> Unlock</td> <td align="left" width="73"> Optus total</td> <td align="center" width="61"> AT&T</td> <td align="center" width="56"> X-rate</td> <td align="center" width="59"> AUD</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">8GB</td> <td sdval="509" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$509.00</td> <td sdval="1.63079" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.63</td> <td sdval="830.07211" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$830.07</td> <td sdval="729" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$729.00</td> <td sdval="80" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$80.00</td> <td sdval="809" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$809.00</td> <td sdval="599" sdnum="1033;" align="right">599</td> <td sdval="1.038" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.04</td> <td sdval="621.762" sdnum="1033;" align="right">621.76</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">16GB</td> <td sdval="609" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$609.00</td> <td sdval="1.63079" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.63</td> <td sdval="993.15111" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$993.15</td> <td sdval="849" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$849.00</td> <td sdval="80" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$80.00</td> <td sdval="929" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$929.00</td> <td sdval="699" sdnum="1033;" align="right">699</td> <td sdval="1.038" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.04</td> <td sdval="725.562" sdnum="1033;" align="right">725.56</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
But Infoworld reports Jupiter Research analyst Michael Gartenberg saying the phone probably would still be locked for use only on AT&T's network.

But remember Australian prices include the GST.

AT&T Prices in the U.S. are before you add sales tax (in the U.S. they always quote exc. tax)

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Old 06-07-2008, 11:25 AM
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AT&T has announced through the pages of Infoworld (tinyurl.com/59xglf) that it will charge $US599 ($622) for an 8GB device and $US699 ($726) for a 16GB iPhone not on contract.

The 16GB iPhone is about $200 cheaper in the US than here.


So for France, the US and Australia, the following prices:
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="10" rules="none" frame="void"> <colgroup><col width="59"><col width="51"><col width="47"><col width="41"><col width="44"><col width="53"><col width="73"><col width="61"><col width="56"><col width="59"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="left" width="59" height="18">Model</td> <td align="left" width="51"> Orange</td> <td align="left" width="47"> X-rate</td> <td align="left" width="41"> AUD</td> <td align="left" width="44"> Optus</td> <td align="left" width="53"> Unlock</td> <td align="left" width="73"> Optus total</td> <td align="center" width="61"> AT&T</td> <td align="center" width="56"> X-rate</td> <td align="center" width="59"> AUD</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">8GB</td> <td sdval="509" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$509.00</td> <td sdval="1.63079" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.63</td> <td sdval="830.07211" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$830.07</td> <td sdval="729" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$729.00</td> <td sdval="80" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$80.00</td> <td sdval="809" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$809.00</td> <td sdval="599" sdnum="1033;" align="right">599</td> <td sdval="1.038" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.04</td> <td sdval="621.762" sdnum="1033;" align="right">621.76</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17">16GB</td> <td sdval="609" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$609.00</td> <td sdval="1.63079" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.63</td> <td sdval="993.15111" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$993.15</td> <td sdval="849" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$849.00</td> <td sdval="80" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$80.00</td> <td sdval="929" sdnum="1033;0;[$$-409]#,##0.00;[RED]-[$$-409]#,##0.00" align="right">$929.00</td> <td sdval="699" sdnum="1033;" align="right">699</td> <td sdval="1.038" sdnum="1033;" align="right">1.04</td> <td sdval="725.562" sdnum="1033;" align="right">725.56</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
But Infoworld reports Jupiter Research analyst Michael Gartenberg saying the phone probably would still be locked for use only on AT&T's network.
No need to quote an analyst, AT&T have confirmed themselves they the outright phone is still locked. This is hardly surprising though, seeing as phones are always locked, you just aren't on a contract.
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So the US prices would be the equivalent of $684 and $799 once you include GST - a local premium of roughly $50 each (before any unlocking fee is applied).

For such a high ticket item, and accounting for future currency flictuations, begrudging them a variance of 6% might be a little harsh.
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So the US prices would be the equivalent of $684 and $799 once you include GST - a local premium of roughly $50 each (before any unlocking fee is applied).

For such a high ticket item, and accounting for future currency flictuations, begrudging them a variance of 6% might be a little harsh.
Take into account shipping, the included $400 and 1GB if you activate etc. and we're not doing too bad.

$849 is better than the $999 I had feared.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:35 AM
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Does anyone expect data to be cheaper within a years time?

I guess thats the reason that i am leaning towards the 12months and not the 24 figuring there be better data later on when more and more ppl need mobile data and becomes more competititve.
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seems there lining up outside stores in USA all ready "If you thought the hype for Apple's iPhone 3G would be tempered as compared to the original iPhone, then think again as the over-eager iPhone fanboys have already started lining up outside Apple's flagship store on 5th Avenue in New York to be the first to get their hands on iPhone 3G".
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Does anyone expect data to be cheaper within a years time?

I guess thats the reason that i am leaning towards the 12months and not the 24 figuring there be better data later on when more and more ppl need mobile data and becomes more competititve.
Wow, that's crystal ball stuff.

I can remember about 6 years ago, when my wife lived in Portland OR, she'd tell me how her "cell phone" plan was set up. I used to cry tears of blood when comparing our absolute rubbish plans with theirs. Unlimited this, gazillion minutes that, free night-time this. You get the idea? Anyway, today we're not far off what they get, and in some aspects (AT&T we're looking at you) we're better off.

Personally, I think the more people that use data and the more telco's that sell data, the cheaper it will become. But that's probably wishful thinking.
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Sales and use taxes in the US are levied by states and municipalities and vary accordingly.

For instance, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon don't levy taxes on consumers and Colorado's is just 2.9%.

Other low taxing states are:
4% Georgia, Louisiana, New York State, South Dakota;
4.225% Missouri;
4.5% North Carolina, Oklahoma;
4.75% Utah;
5% Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, New Mexico, North Dakota, Virginia.

Most other jurisdictions levy a tax of 5-7%.
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Sales and use taxes in the US are levied by states and municipalities and vary accordingly.

For instance, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon don't levy taxes on consumers and Colorado's is just 2.9%.

Other low taxing states are:
4% Georgia, Louisiana, New York State, South Dakota;
4.225% Missouri;
4.5% North Carolina, Oklahoma;
4.75% Utah;
5% Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, New Mexico, North Dakota, Virginia.

Most other jurisdictions levy a tax of 5-7%.
Yeah, my in-laws live near the border between Washington and Oregon. They shop in Oregon.
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Does anyone expect data to be cheaper within a years time?

I guess thats the reason that i am leaning towards the 12months and not the 24 figuring there be better data later on when more and more ppl need mobile data and becomes more competititve.
I don't think they'd upgrade the plan you're already on though, you'd probably have to resign to get any new iPhone plans.

Has anyone had any experience with updating to improved plans before?
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What time is everyone going to be lining up? It opens at 7am for pre orders people , although i think syd and melb are having a few stores open up at midnight
What time should i get there for a 7am opening?
considering its perth
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Sales and use taxes in the US are levied by states and municipalities and vary accordingly.

For instance, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon don't levy taxes on consumers and Colorado's is just 2.9%.

Other low taxing states are:
4% Georgia, Louisiana, New York State, South Dakota;
4.225% Missouri;
4.5% North Carolina, Oklahoma;
4.75% Utah;
5% Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, New Mexico, North Dakota, Virginia.

Most other jurisdictions levy a tax of 5-7%.
Don't forget the additional local taxes within a state.

For example, in Manhattan or the other boroughs, your total taxes amount to 8.38% whereas in other parts of New York State it may be less.

The best comparison for us is simply to take the tax-free price and apply our own GST, since all of our prices are GST-inclusive. Then we're comparing apples to apples (pardon the pun).
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Does anyone expect data to be cheaper within a years time?

I guess thats the reason that i am leaning towards the 12months and not the 24 figuring there be better data later on when more and more ppl need mobile data and becomes more competititve.
I think the telcos would have to at some point. As it is at the moment, and this is what I am thinking of doing is use my wifi network at home and find wifi hotspots. Sure there may be times where I will have to use the network data. But this is where the telcos need to cut costs. Just to compete with the wifi era.

All so check out page 13 of the hearld sun today. It all about the iphone and how telstra are spreading propaganda about optus.
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Telco giants battle as waiting list soars | Herald Sun

For those of us outside Victoria.
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