what do you mean by that?
we dont have a business of our own, the optus guy signed us up to one coz we just call each other (gf and i) and calls and messages are free. they made our abn for us too? they said it was fine? havent had any problems with it and they even called me up asking how our service was every 6 months.

we're on one now, business smart yes 39. our 2 year contract is about to end.

oh hey guys just found this!! dont remember if read anything about this in this thread.

afew months ago optus implemented live billing. i still need to read that page myself. but heres the link Optus Live Billing Ultimate Thread! - Optus / Virgin - Mobile Carriers - Whirlpool Broadband Forums
you can get sent text messages if ur about to go over your limit also there are screenshots of how the live billing looks like when viewed online.

Is anyone here in Cairns and getting an iPhone on Friday? I preordered 3 and will only need one after all.

I'll settle for ANY of the Canberra Telstra shops to actually HAVE stocks on Friday thanks!

Is that 3 Optus iPhones you have ordered? I'm thinking of getting one from Telstra, they're the only ones with 3G coverage up here in Cairns (also have more WIFI access).

Actually Optus have a fully functioning 3G service in Cairns - don't know about the outer suburbs tho but I did notice their coverage map has been updated. WiFi is a little scarce tho. And yes the phones were preordered thru Optus

Optus T's and C's:

Content is tailored for viewing on Optus 3G/HSPA and
may not include all content and features of Internet websites.

They're covering themselves over flash.

I hope we find out what this means before I have to sign up for 24 months of it

I going for 12 months. Yeah you have to pay more. but at least if a newer iphone is coming out next year i be free to get it.

before anyone should signup to this contract,hel..any contract.you should read the fine print over and over..and ask them lots of questions in store aswell

I was thinking the same thing at first but I now think that it will be closer to two years before seeing a new iPhone. I think the first gen iPhone was a trial for the rest of the world and now that we all get to have one, Apple will want more time to gain market share. Just a thought. Seeing as I already have to pay out a contract, it'll now be about managing cash flow personally.

AT&T has announced through the pages of Infoworld (tinyurl.com/59xglf) that it will charge $US599 ($622) for an 8GB device and $US699 ($726) for a 16GB iPhone not on contract.

The 16GB iPhone is about $200 cheaper in the US than here.


So for France, the US and Australia, the following prices:
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But Infoworld reports Jupiter Research analyst Michael Gartenberg saying the phone probably would still be locked for use only on AT&T's network.

And thats why. AT&T is apparently paying a substantial subsidy on each handset - around $300-400 cash at time of purchase to Apple.

Which is how they've managed to 'lower' the cost - its the carriers picking up the slack.

With these optus plans If u actualy work It out the phone comes out extremely cheap.
eg -$12 x 24 = 288
-$7x 24 = 168
Its the plans where paying for not the phone I think.
I'm Extremely anxious to see what Vodaphone and Telstra bring to the ball park.
I can't imagine there plans beig drasticaly better than these.

Marcus