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08-07-2008, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bond
In theory, as long as the SIM is non-prepay, it will only work with some plans (i.e. SIM that are on a Broadband plan). Unsure how they going police this.
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So the phone would reject a Prepay SIM?
Anyway, updated with Mexico:

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08-07-2008, 12:58 PM
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Belgium are having a press release today (one was cancelled in the 4th) from Mobistar I think.
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08-07-2008, 01:03 PM
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Wow, just noticed how royally screwed Denmark is. Isn't the TCO a little misleading, considering that Denmark you are only getting 6 months of service for that price? Also shouldn't Norway be brown, not red?
Thanks for providing this excellent resource! 
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08-07-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Edd
Wow, just noticed how royally screwed Denmark is. Isn't the TCO a little misleading, considering that Denmark you are only getting 6 months of service for that price? Also shouldn't Norway be brown, not red?
Thanks for providing this excellent resource! 
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Yep, you're right.
Are you sure you're not confusing Denmark and Norway, or are Norway's contracts really only 6 months?
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08-07-2008, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NeoRicen
Are you sure you're not confusing Denmark and Norway, or are Norway's contracts really only 6 months?
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I said Denmark was 6 months.
The only thing I meant with Norway is that it's no longer the highest monthly price, so shouldn't only Denmark be red in the "cheapest plan" column?
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08-07-2008, 01:14 PM
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Location: Melbourne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edd
Isn't the TCO a little misleading, considering that Denmark you are only getting 6 months of service for that price?
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Good point, in order to get a balanced comparison of TCO across all the countries, plans and plan durations, they need to be normalised to a fixed period of time, eg
say we take 12 months as the reference point, USA 8GB should be ($1911/2)= $955.5, and Denmark 8GB would be ($1101*2) = $2202. Comparatively, Australia seems an awfully good deal at $816 for the 8GB over 12 months
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08-07-2008, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edd
I said Denmark was 6 months.
The only thing I meant with Norway is that it's no longer the highest monthly price, so shouldn't only Denmark be red in the "cheapest plan" column?
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Sorry, I saw the part where you said Norway being brown, and just filled in Norway everywhere.
As for normalising the TCO, it defeats the purpose, because having the TCO for the USA as 12 months is meaningless because you can't get it for 12 months, meaning it's not the TCO anymore, and for Denmark being 12 months, that's not a TCO because you don't need to be on it for 12 months.
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08-07-2008, 01:25 PM
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Would it be possible to get another one of these but have the Handset repayment totals and upfront costs put in so we can see who actually get's the cheapest phone.
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08-07-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bawpcwpn
Would it be possible to get another one of these but have the Handset repayment totals and upfront costs put in so we can see who actually get's the cheapest phone.
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Well the only country with handset repayments is us, and they're added together in the subsidised columns. However the price does change over plans, and the only way to see who has the cheapest phone is to outline EVERY plan in EVERY county.
Although on certain plans both the UK and Australia have completely free phones (zero up front, zero repayments).
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08-07-2008, 01:33 PM
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Group: Regulars
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoRicen
UPDATE: Replaced with Image, included Hong Kong and Australia.
UPDATE: Added Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) on Cheapest Plan to Table.
UPDATE: Added Switzerland.
UPDATE: Added US Prepaid.
UPDATE: Added Netherlands, better/worse than average indicators.
UPDATE: Added Ireland, made average of non-unlimited data plans.
UPDATE: Added Finland, included whole list of July 11 Countries (plus France)
UPDATE: Added Denmark, Updated Australia with Optus' $19 plan, but with Handset paid off up front.
UPDATE: Added New Zealand, made Australia's cheapest plan the $19 Yes plan, over 12 months, with Handset repayments group together for subsidised price.
UPDATE: Added Italy (TIM) and Portugal (Vodafone)
UPDATE: Added Mexico
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Wow, thanks NeoRicen.
Somebody give this man a medal.
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08-07-2008, 01:59 PM
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Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoRicen
So the phone would reject a Prepay SIM? 
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Correct. Not sure why but a friend of mine that works for the competition suggested that it may be due to limited initial stock levels but I doubt it.
Is the pre-paid option off the table in other countries as well or are we in NZ the odd ones out?
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08-07-2008, 02:03 PM
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Location: Sydney
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Originally Posted by James Bond
Correct. Not sure why but a friend of mine that works for the competition suggested that it may be due to limited initial stock levels but I doubt it.
Is the pre-paid option off the table in other countries as well or are we in NZ the odd ones out?
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A few countries offer prepaid, more don't.
Optus in Australia is offering prepaid phones for $923NZD for 8GB and $1075NZD for 16GB, that also includes $506NZD and 1GB credit, which expires in 30 days.
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08-07-2008, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoRicen
Well the only country with handset repayments is us, and they're added together in the subsidised columns. However the price does change over plans, and the only way to see who has the cheapest phone is to outline EVERY plan in EVERY county.
Although on certain plans both the UK and Australia have completely free phones (zero up front, zero repayments).
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Ok that makes sense. Thanks 
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09-07-2008, 08:57 AM
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Location: NZ
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09-07-2008, 08:58 AM
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Location: NZ
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There was a second tab of other plans.. but looks like they pulled the page again.
Edit: the home page now refers to plans but the linked page has returned to the pre register page - not a cache issue as was just on the updated page
Last edited by MDNZ; 09-07-2008 at 09:04 AM.
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