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Old 04-01-2008, 08:33 AM
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I'm thinking of going with the HyperCard solution, but am curious, with this solution, will the 3 sims work? Or is this still not possible?
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:03 AM
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Hyper Card Experience Part 2

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

With fresh eyes and brain I went back at it this morning. And I seem to have it sort of working. I say sort of as it will work most times but occassionaly I need to reboot the phone to get Sim Applications back.

This is what I sent to Eric:

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I tried a carefully structured test. It seems to be working but a bit on the flaky side. Here is what seems to work:

1. Power up iPhone
2. Wait until network found
3. go to Settings -> Phone -> Sim Applications
4. If Sim-1 is active (*) then select Sim-2 and wait
5. Message comes up No SIM
6. Go back to Settings then select Phone _> Sim Applications again
7. Generally Sim-2 will now show as being active

In step 4 if Sim-2 is active (*) then select Sim-1. I have been able to switch sims via this approach.

However sometimes the Sim Application just disappears. I then need to power down the iPhone and power it up again and Sim Applications comes back.

This process is a bit flaky but it mostly works. What could be causing this intermittent behavior?

Is there any way I can get another retaining metal shield? May send via regular post to keep costs down?
I am now awaiting his response.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:09 PM
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Just my little rant.
Totally with ya buddy. I'd actually go ahead and support these "cheap chinese devices" if I had to buy one of these dumb devices because they are the guys that are going to reduce the price more to what it should be. To pay $500 for an iPhone and then half the price again of the iPhone just for a bit of flimsy crap is just ludicrous - I'ld get a Touch if I had to get a post week-53 or whatever and hold out for the AU iPhone.

The only possible reason I would remotely consider one of these things is if I had to upgrade to a future firmware release that had some absolutely must-have feature, and that firmware version didn't have any way of being Jailbroken.

It's simply a matter of "Would I pay a ridiculous amount of money for this feature?". The impending 1.1.3 release doesn't have anything that I'd pay that much for (assuming there'll be no Jailbreak for it) I already have most of the functionality with 3rd-party apps. Multiple recipitents for SMS's? iSMS or SMSD. Moving icons around in the dock? Customise. GSM-based navigation? Navizon (well, kinda, and its not very important to me anyway because it's just not accurate enough and you'll still have to ask someone to work out where you are in the approximation)

Just my 0.02.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:13 AM
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Hyper Card Works

Well I got a response from Eric and even though the documentation is a bit sketchy it works as described. The trick is that the No SIM message is generated through the transition from sim-x to sim-y. The new sim selected is then registered and you have the switch. In order to see the transition you need to back out of the Sim Application menu item (press the home key) and then go back via Settings -> Phone -> Sim Applications and you will then see which sim is currently active.

BTW he also states that the documented scheme of using 11* or 22* from the keypad to select the sim does not work on the iPhone so you do need to use the Sim Application menu to make the switch.

I am now a happy camper with 2 working sims.

I can only support what has been previously said about the sim alignment in the carrier. I aligned the pattern with the edges of the sim very carefully and cut along the outlines. The resulting 'mini' sim was barely in alignment with the contacts. Good enough to work but certainly not centered on the contacts. So be very careful and do a trial alignment before cutting the sim.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:44 PM
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Hey JohnD,

I feel your pain. After shelling out the cash I was a bit (a lot) ddisappointed when the sim failed after an hour of buying it. Here's why...

In my curiosity I selected SIM#2 and it naturally dropped the ability to recognise a sim and didn't give me the option to select again. I didn't actually try swapping sim slots until much later.

I went through sticking in bits of paper to get more pressure and nothing worked.

Once I tried swapping sim "bays" it came back up immediately. I swapped it back to bay 1...Nothing

If you take a paper clip and turn the HyperCard over you will see depressions where the HyperCard connects with your sims. With the sims out and something soft underneath to distribute the pressure (like your cleaning cloth) gently refresh the depressions so that the contacts on the other side will make a better connection. The hypercards working great again.

In my swapping and pressurising I had inadvertently flattened out the contacts.

Sorry about being long winded.

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Totally with ya buddy. I'd actually go ahead and support these "cheap chinese devices" if I had to buy one of these dumb devices because they are the guys that are going to reduce the price more to what it should be. To pay $500 for an iPhone and then half the price again of the iPhone just for a bit of flimsy crap is just ludicrous - I'ld get a Touch if I had to get a post week-53 or whatever and hold out for the AU iPhone.

The only possible reason I would remotely consider one of these things is if I had to upgrade to a future firmware release that had some absolutely must-have feature, and that firmware version didn't have any way of being Jailbroken.
I actually ate my words and forked out the cash to buy a few HyperSIMs. This was mainly because I was heading to the US this week and wanted to get a few new iPhones whilst here to use back in Australia. Ended up costing me in the region of $100 but I must admit, they seem to work well. I got an iPhone and had it unlocked and working with a HyperSIM in about 1 hour. Sensational.

I'm just in two minds if I buy another 3-4 iPhones whilst here and use the HyperSIM to use in Australia, or if I wait and see what Steve announces this week. I guess even if a new iPhones comes out with a new firmware, it won't be for a number of weeks or months until someone actually works out an unlock anyways.

Decisions decisions.
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Old 15-01-2008, 11:05 PM
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i got a next sim in. i think its next sim 3 now..

i was told it'll work with 3 australia.
and its not.

now another guy on ebay is saying Next sim 4 work.
can anyone confirm this thanks

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Old 16-01-2008, 01:26 AM
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I think you'll find NO CARD solution for the iPhone will allow you to use a 3 card.

If you were told it would - go get your money back.

HyperSIM works with all other mobile phone providers though. Works very well!
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Old 17-01-2008, 12:32 AM
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Someone on this forum is the biggest Biatchhhhhhhhhh !!

Claims it work with " 3 Australia " !!!

Who ? dont ask me, i dont sell hypersim here..
i just want my " 3 " sim to work..

someone is really dodgy here..



PS- please prove that im wrong.. and my 3 sim could work. i would love it to work.
any input would be appreciated ! cheers
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Who said a 3 SIM would work?
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Old 17-01-2008, 01:31 PM
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http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22516

Information there seems to indicate that its working for 3 UK. Have you tried putting in the AT&T card and the 3 SIM to an unlocked phone and copied hte info from the AT&T SIM?
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http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22516

Information there seems to indicate that its working for 3 UK. Have you tried putting in the AT&T card and the 3 SIM to an unlocked phone and copied hte info from the AT&T SIM?
No mate, havnt done that. but i was told by the guy who's selling it that it work for AUS 3. since it work for alot of the 3, UK, Hong Kong..etc

the guy is the prick who advertise here with his websites as a signature.
im not going to mention names.
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Old 28-01-2008, 02:54 AM
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I'm thinking of going with the HyperCard solution, but am curious, with this solution, will the 3 sims work? Or is this still not possible?
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Someone on this forum is the biggest Biatchhhhhhhhhh !!

Claims it work with " 3 Australia " !!!

Who ? dont ask me, i dont sell hypersim here..
i just want my " 3 " sim to work..

someone is really dodgy here..



PS- please prove that im wrong.. and my 3 sim could work. i would love it to work.
any input would be appreciated ! cheers

Not possible - but nothing to do with the SIM solution you use.

The iPhone is not a 3G device - it is a 2-2.5 device.

If you put your "3" SIM in any 2G mobile 'phone it will not work. Same with putting it in an iPhone. With or without a SIM device. In a pre-week 45 iPhone. In an officially unlocked French iPhone. It does not matter - the iPhone is not 3G.

Of course all other "3G" SIMs will work - Optus, Vodafone, Telstra, Telstra NextG, etc.

Some people get confused between "3G" SIMs and "3" SIMs

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