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Old 22-11-2007, 07:11 PM
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Strange. I suspect you're using a funked version of AppSupport.

Try a different version of AppSupport, or modify it yourself. This link will start you off.
I wouldn't have a clue on how to edit it myself. I've had a look at some of the instructions and I reckon it's all way over my head.

Apparently the version I used (which was posted by someone on here) works fine for them, so I'm not really sure it is the AppSupport file that's causing the problem. :/

All very weird.
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Old 22-11-2007, 08:39 PM
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mikeyg0 just sent me the version of AppSupport he has been using, that somebody here modified for Australian number formats. It is incorrect and shouldn't be used. It won't bork your phone, it just causes that one little issue, AFAIK. I noticed ricochet was also having the same problem with the same file (via a post on Hackint0sh.)

When you run the pntedit.exe application from this post at Hackint0sh by Tim Schuerewegen, the AppSupport file in question outputs the following;
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us 1 011 1 3 7
ca 1 011 1 3 7
fr 33 00 0 1 8
fr 33 40 0 1 8
fr 33 50 0 1 8
fr 33 70 0 1 8
fr 33 90 0 1 8
uk 44 00 0 3 7
it 39 00 - 1 8
it 39 00 - 2 7
it 39 00 - 3 6
it 39 00 - 4 5
jp 81 010 0 1 9
jp 81 010 0 2 8
jp 81 010 0 3 7
jp 81 010 0 4 6
jp 81 010 0 5 5
cn 86 00 0 0 11
cn 86 00 0 2 8
cn 86 00 0 3 7
au 61 0011 0 1 8
au 61 0011 0 2 8
The last line is the problematic one. I'll try to explain why.

The phone format table above shows, in order, the country, the country code, the international dialling prefix, the national dialling prefix, the area code, then the phone number. The line;
Code:
au 61 0011 0 1 8
...tells the iPhone to expect Australian phone numbers which have 8 digits, plus a one digit area code (the zero is automatically removed) plus the country code.

When a number comes in like +61 418 000 000 it knows to drop the +61 and add the 0 so it recognises 0418 000 000 as well.

The second entry;
Code:
au 61 0011 0 2 8
...expects an extra digit at the start of the number, after the 61 and before the 4, so it gets all confused like, and doesn't know what the heck to show. I know that's a pretty technical explanation, but...

Anyway, to solve the issue, don't use the AppSupport in question. Problem is I don't know which version it is, so use the AU specific files in the first post. They work for me...

Edit: but apparently not for Mikey. Sorry...

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Old 22-11-2007, 08:43 PM
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Thanks for that Edge.

I've just tried again with the AppSupport from the first post, and it didn't change anything.

Oh well.

Once again thanks for your help though
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Old 22-11-2007, 09:13 PM
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Strange. I suspect you're using a funked version of AppSupport.

Try a different version of AppSupport, or modify it yourself. This link will start you off.
au 61 0011 0 1 8
au 61 0011 1 3 6

Edge, I think there maybe something missing in your AppSupport file for AU according to this URL.

Try something like this instead:

au 61 0011 - 0 9 (International)
au 61 0011 0 1 8 (National)

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Old 22-11-2007, 10:01 PM
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Yeah, the second entry in my original AppSupport file is moot. I've removed it. And the entry with the dash does not work because it won't know to add the preceding 0 before Australian phone numbers. I just tried it on its own and the SMS.app failed to recognize the number when entered as 04xx xxx xxx.

Edit: Files here

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Old 22-11-2007, 10:15 PM
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Hey again.

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but that didn't fix it.

I was just thinking though, what are the Optus and Telstra files for? I never restarted my phone with a different SIM card so could that be causing the problem?
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:24 PM
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Yeah, the second entry in my original AppSupport file is moot. I've removed it. And the entry with the dash does not work because it won't know to add the preceding 0 before Australian phone numbers. I just tried it on its own and the SMS.app failed to recognize the number when entered as 04xx xxx xxx.

Edit: Files here
Hmm... Maybe this one instead as the order may matter:

au 61 0011 0 1 8 (National)
au 61 0011 - 1 8 (International)

The - entry should take care of the incoming SMS matching, as if I understood correctly so far, they come in international format and there is no 0 when international is used or am I wrong?
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:27 PM
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Hmm... Maybe this one instead as the order may matter:

au 61 0011 0 1 8 (National)
au 61 0011 - 1 8 (International)

The - entry should take care of the incoming SMS matching, as if I understood correctly so far, they come in international format and there is no 0 when international is used or am I wrong?
That's right. SMSs come in with +614********. The leading 0 is replaced by +61
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:33 PM
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That's right. SMSs come in with +614********. The leading 0 is replaced by +61
How many digits are there after the +61? Are there always 9 (1 for the area code and 8 for the number)?
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:39 PM
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How many digits are there after the +61? Are there always 9 (1 for the area code and 8 for the number)?
There are always 10 numbers in a mobile number ie 0412345678, and they always start with 04.

When a text is received, it becomes +61412345678

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Old 22-11-2007, 10:59 PM
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There are always 10 numbers in a mobile number ie 0412345678, and they always start with 04.

When a text is received, it becomes +61412345678
Good, then one of the following 4 cases should always work:

(1)
au 61 0011 0 1 8 (National)
au 61 0011 - 1 8 (International)

(2)
au 61 0011 0 0 9 (National)
au 61 0011 - 0 9 (International)

(3)
au 61 0011 0 0 9 (National)
au 61 0011 0 1 8 (National)
au 61 0011 - 1 8 (International)

(4)
au 61 0011 0 0 9 (National)
au 61 0011 0 1 8 (National)
au 61 0011 - 0 9 (International)

ADDED: Order matters and its always ascending.

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Old 23-11-2007, 04:01 AM
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Hey again.

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but that didn't fix it.

I was just thinking though, what are the Optus and Telstra files for? I never restarted my phone with a different SIM card so could that be causing the problem?
Doubtful. Nor did i. I also haven't completed the process that requires use of Terminal, I was going to do that today, but my numbering seems to be just fine. I've yet to get an sms from someone other than voicemail (which works, thank the lord, thats my last firmware upgrade) but no doubt will see what happens today.

I'm wondering if some of the changes imposed in previous upgrades, downgrades etc actually persist after a new baseband and restore...
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Old 23-11-2007, 08:29 AM
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As I said, the entry with the '-' doesn't work, and ignoring the area code (by using an entry ending in 0 9) will be unable to recognise/match any local numbers in your address book without area code.

@mikeyg0; the updated AppSupport file wasn't meant to fix your problem. Something else is missing. Have you selected Australia as your country? If so, then I'd suggest addin a symlink for your carrier. Otherwise, I'm stumped.

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Old 23-11-2007, 08:53 AM
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As I said, the entry with the '-' doesn't work, and ignoring the area code (by using an entry ending in 0 9) will be unable to recognise/match any local numbers in your address book without area code.

@mikeyg0; the updated AppSupport file wasn't meant to fix your problem. Something else is missing. Have you selected Australia as your country? If so, then I'd suggest addin a symlink for your carrier. Otherwise, I'm stumped.
What exactly does the symlink do? I followed the instructions to create one, but I didn't use a different SIM card and restart. I guess I'll try that next.

I tried to make another link to restart with a different SIM and it said it couldn't coz one already existed(?) so I didn't even try using a different SIM (cant remember the exact msg it gave and I'm back at work again so can't do it now). I'll try that tonight.

I've already changed my numbers of those people I text to the +614 format so it's not really a major problem. More annoying knowing it's not working right is all. lol

Thanks for all your (and everyone else's) help though

Edit: and yes I have selected Australia. I even tried the US and other randoms to see if it fixed it but it didn't.
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Old 23-11-2007, 09:54 AM
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As I said, the entry with the '-' doesn't work, and ignoring the area code (by using an entry ending in 0 9) will be unable to recognise/match any local numbers in your address book without area code.
The - entry should have worked for the SMSs as there is no leading 0 when incoming numbers (SMSs) are in international format and since the national dial plan for AU is a total of 9 numbers (1 for the area code +8 for the number) that should also match. If I am not mistaken, an incoming call will always have the last 9 numbers the same weather its in national or international format, but I think I am missing something here. Of course, the 1 8 entries are definitely more correct than the 0 9 ones and they should match 8 digit entries in your phonebook, if thats how you store them. I would suggest though the international format, specially if you travel a lot.

Out of curiosity, what type of formats do you use to store your numbers in your address books?
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