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13-10-2007, 11:54 AM
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Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Apple is desperate now LOL
Found this link over on modmyiphone to a story on Mobile magazine. Apple is desperate to stop folks getting an iPhone with FW 1.0.2. Thing is not many are about in shops as folks have been searching them out for days.
iPhone Shipments Halted, All Units Upgraded to 1.1.1
Thursday October 11, 2007 2:41 PM CDT - By: Michael Kwan
If you were hoping to waltz into your local Apple or AT&T store and grab an iPhone that is still running on firmware 1.02, you're pretty much out of luck. Cupertino has halted all current shipments of iPhones to AT&T stores so that they can ensure every unit on the shelves is running on the latest firmware, version 1.1.1.
As you recall, this was the firmware update that effectively locked out third-party applications, including the one that lets you unlock the iPhone to use it with another GSM service provider. Sure, the whole jailbreak thing is going on and they'll probably hack and slash their way through firmware 1.1.1 soon, but in the meantime, it looks like anyone wanting an unlocked iPhone will have to look somewhere other than their local AT&T store.
Interestingly, Apple said that they lowered the price of the iPhone to help drive up holiday sales. By halting shipments and lowering the supply, doesn't that work against, you know, increasing sales?
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13-10-2007, 12:01 PM
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Resident Hippie
Group: Forum Leaders
Location: Brisbane
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Haha! That's gold. There are preliminary reports and rumors floating that there is a hack available for 1.1.1 now anyway...well to run 1.1.1 and downgrade your baseband to 1.0.2.
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13-10-2007, 12:04 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Brisbane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W9cae
Interestingly, Apple said that they lowered the price of the iPhone to help drive up holiday sales. By halting shipments and lowering the supply, doesn't that work against, you know, increasing sales?
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Key words being 'holiday sales'. Still a while away...
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13-10-2007, 12:17 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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You can take an iPhone with FW 1.1.1 & downgrade to 1.0.2 or just downgrade the baseband. Give it a few more days & FW 1.1.1 will be totally cracked. Apple is fighting a loosing battle. The hackers are pissed now & will not stop at anything but total victory.
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13-10-2007, 12:19 PM
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Resident Hippie
Group: Forum Leaders
Location: Brisbane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W9cae
You can take an iPhone with FW 1.1.1 & downgrade to 1.0.2 or just downgrade the baseband. Give it a few more days & FW 1.1.1 will be totally cracked. Apple is fighting a loosing battle. The hackers are pissed now & will not stop at anything but total victory.
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The PSP story perhaps....
I can see the consumer winning out against corporate greed...the way it should be 
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13-10-2007, 12:49 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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The original article has no source or reference - it could well have been made up. It just says "Apple did this" without anything to back it up.
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13-10-2007, 12:59 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Bris Vegas
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Everyone has been calling it a firmware update, but according to Apple it's a software update.
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13-10-2007, 01:22 PM
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Stuck in IKEA. Send help.
Group: Administrators
Location: St. Albans, Melbourne
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This is standard procedure with all Apple gear - the latest version of the software always gets put on newly manufactured machines.
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13-10-2007, 02:05 PM
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Merry Pagan Sun God's day
Group: Administrators
Location: Fukuoka, Japan (originally Canberra)
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Umm, the tone of this thread is wrong. If Apple are advertising that the iPhone has certain features, then sell phones without those features (with the old firmware) they will be in serious legal trouble. If that means stopping all shipments to do upgrades, then that's what they need to do. It has nothing to do with the hacking of the iPhone.
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13-10-2007, 02:11 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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I can see why this has happened: they know that 1.1.1 will be cracked soon, BUT if people decide to crack an iPhone with 1.0.4, and then update it, it'll become bricked. Apple does not want anymore bricked iPhones, and they can solve this problem by having all models shipped with 1.1.1.
They'll probably be hoping that their next firmware update doesn't brick another lot of iPhones.
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13-10-2007, 02:12 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Currawong
Umm, the tone of this thread is wrong. If Apple are advertising that the iPhone has certain features, then sell phones without those features (with the old firmware) they will be in serious legal trouble. If that means stopping all shipments to do upgrades, then that's what they need to do. It has nothing to do with the hacking of the iPhone.
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But the update is applied when the iPhone is first used: it MUST be connected to a computer with an Internet connection to work, ie be activated.
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13-10-2007, 03:32 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Wellington, NSW
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Currawong
Umm, the tone of this thread is wrong. If Apple are advertising that the iPhone has certain features, then sell phones without those features (with the old firmware) they will be in serious legal trouble. If that means stopping all shipments to do upgrades, then that's what they need to do. It has nothing to do with the hacking of the iPhone.
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Ahh, but you see common sense doesn't apply in the universe where Apple is some evil corporate empire and the hackers are glorious freedom fighters standing up for rights of consumers everywhere. 
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13-10-2007, 06:43 PM
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Merry Pagan Sun God's day
Group: Administrators
Location: Fukuoka, Japan (originally Canberra)
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Indeed, I doubt Apple give a toss if their software is modified. They only give a toss if people cost them money by claiming support or warranty when they screwed up the device.
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13-10-2007, 07:13 PM
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Widgeteer
Group: Forum Leaders
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Appleseed
Everyone has been calling it a firmware update, but according to Apple it's a software update.
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Firmware is a form or software. Both terms are kinda correct in this situation.
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