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01-10-2007, 03:06 PM
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iPhone protest vid uses Apple's own words to support the "crazy ones"
DIGG ~ iPhone protest vid uses Apple's own words to support the "crazy ones"
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Originally Posted by Engadget
A lot of people out there aren't too happy with Apple right now. Some of them express their displeasure with expletive-filled tirades in the comments section of any pertinent blog post they can find. Other, arguably more creative folks use the popular medium of the day to make the object of their frustration appear foolish and hypocritical in an entertaining manner. To witness just such a protest, head over to the video after the break...
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Last edited by Jaffa; 01-10-2007 at 03:09 PM.
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01-10-2007, 03:07 PM
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I think it's a good vid 
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01-10-2007, 03:15 PM
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I think it's a good vid 
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Yeah  About time someone made it LOL
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01-10-2007, 03:22 PM
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01-10-2007, 03:29 PM
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Brillliant, just brilliant. Coming from someone who has sang the Apple song, and gotten half my office to 'switch' to Mac, Im starting to 'think different' towards Apple these days. They have become bullies, arrogant and more interested in controlling people (ie: iPhone) than spreading the love to so speak.
I understand that they are a business, but geeze, its not like they are struggling and need these exclusive deals for their own survival. The iPhone was always going to be a hit, I really dont get why they had to make it so difficult for people to get. The fact that we are going to such lengths to get these phones and use them is confirmation enough of how much people want them. We are spending our money on these things and Apple is making a fortune selling them.
So now Apple has to punish those who want to 'think different', the very people who still believe in the Apple philosophy, that Apple itself seems to have forgotten.
Ok, well thats my 2cents worth.
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01-10-2007, 03:39 PM
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That was so excellent I almost cried.
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01-10-2007, 04:17 PM
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Well said walexx. The Apple today is not the same as Apple in 1997 for example, they're more controlling, more defensive. Their products are nowhere near as good even, an example being the iPod Nano 2G with the podcast bug. Instead of releasing a firmware update, they released a new iPod Nano, leaving the existing paying users of the 2G out of luck. Yet... the communities still side with Apple. Maybe not this one, MacTalk is very truthful and fair when it comes to Apple's mistakes, but some will always side with Apple because, in their view "The Consumer is always Wrong".
Just seeing the commercial, hearing that music is a reminder of what Apple used to be like, before the iPhone, before Intel Macs. Back when iMac G3's were brand new and Mac OS 9.1 was shipping. How Apple was going to revolutionise computing with a new OS called "Rhapsody"... etc.
That said, that also is just my 0.02c.
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01-10-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by walexx
So now Apple has to punish those who want to 'think different', the very people who still believe in the Apple philosophy, that Apple itself seems to have forgotten.
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Apple's not 'punishing' hackers. Remember these hacks are not just magic little programs that sprinkle pixy dust that allows 3rd party apps to run on the iPhone. These are hacks that exploit flaws in the system. Having flaws that can be exploited is not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. Apple has an obligation to it's customers to fix these flaws.
And yes Apple also has an obligation to it's partners and shareholders.
Ok, so what Apple if chose to only release the iPhone in the US with AT&T. That's their choice, that's their business plan. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
No one is forcing you to purchase it. And equally so no one is stopping you from hacking the iPhone, nor is anyone forcing you to update your hacked iPhone to the latest firmware.
Just because you choose to hack your iPhone, does not mean Apple has an obligation to ensure that updates are compatible with your hacks.
I think the Macalope sums it up perfectly; http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13509_1-9...pe:AnAppleblog
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Apple has a both a financial and a fiduciary interest in making sure you don't use another carrier. It loses its shared revenue if you use another service and the terms of its agreement with AT&T almost certainly dictate that it has to try to keep people from using the iPhone with anybody else.
But more than that, what you've done in unlocking your phone is violated your user agreement. Now that's OK. You can do that. In fact, many people should do that or have to do that to even use the phone.
Here's the thing, and the horny one can't state this emphatically enough:
You can't violate your user agreement and expect Apple to continue to provide you new features and bug fixes.
Remember, you don't have to apply these updates to your phone. iTunes will let you skip them. You can happily continue to use your unlocked phone. And it's simply unreasonable to pretend to continue to be in a relationship with Apple when it's you -- not Apple -- who's already ended it.
So don't come crying to the Macalope that Apple is somehow screwing its customers. When you bought and activated your iPhone, you entered into an agreement. When you hacked it, you ended that agreement. Don't try to crawl back into bed and attempt to spoon Steve Jobs just because you want the iTunes WiFi Store to work on your unlocked iPhone.
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01-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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Originally it was made to celebrate the likes of Einstein, Dylan and Jim Hensen.
And now it's being used so people can get Super Mario back onto their mobile phone. Change the world indeed.
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01-10-2007, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Phase
And now it's being used so people can get Super Mario back onto their mobile phone. Change the world indeed.
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You should try out some of the apps. Frivolous things (to some) like the NES emulator are a minority.
A VoiceNotes recorder, IM client, eBook reader, GPS-WiFi navigation, IRC program, VOIP prototype, full resolution picture picture processing, etc, etc, were the more typical apps that Apple chose to render inoperable with the update.
The "here's to the crazy ones" is entirely appropriate because in barely two months, the enthusiast programmers who worked on these had taught themselves an entirely new environment - with no SDK or documentation whatsoever - building their own tools where necessary (including a complete UNIX toolchain and compiler).
For no reward other than pure love for exploring the product's potential, and had started producing astonishingly polished apps, rivaling Apple's own in quality.
You should really check your facts before taking such a condescending attitude.
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01-10-2007, 06:21 PM
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You should really check your facts before taking such a condescending attitude.
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Yes, clearly a NES emulator is indicitive of all the applications.
We're still talking about putting apps onto a mobile phone. To liken that to what the Ad campaign originally intended is a bit of a joke really. No doubt the coders and devs worked hard, but we're making a luxury item more convenient, reality check table 2 please.
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05-10-2007, 04:55 PM
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I will have to disagree with you there Phase.
I think what the hackers have done is great!
Oh the other hand I think the iPhone Dev Team's free unlock is CRAP! They don't get it to write only the bits needed and they dont get it to write the correct unlock code into the baseband (like the iphonesimfree app does), instead they rewrite over the baseband and make it so it doesnt block sim cards. They know it can be done properly, and they just cant be f***ed! And then on top of that they don't release a undo to restore the baseband. A reason why I regret donating to the dev team and wont anymore and instead will buy iphonesimfree.
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05-10-2007, 05:22 PM
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I'm not worried at all.
We don't even know if the iPhone is going to be locked to one network in Australia.
But, my best bet, if it is gonna be locked to one network, would have to be Telstra or Optus, wouldn't it?
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05-10-2007, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by iMac600
The Apple today is not the same as Apple in 1997 for example, they're more controlling, more defensive.
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I beg to differ. Apple has always had a closed, controlling, uncompromising attitude, which is why it turns out such great products. If you don't want to buy an iPhone on their terms, don't buy one!
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05-10-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lazza72
I'm not worried at all.
We don't even know if the iPhone is going to be locked to one network in Australia.
But, my best bet, if it is gonna be locked to one network, would have to be Telstra or Optus, wouldn't it?
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It would have to be either Telstra, Optus, or Vodafone, because they are the only ones that have proper coverage, the others jut feed off these three networks.
I know that when you buy a pre-paid phone they are locked, and when you buy a post-paid phone they are unlocked, but if apple sells the phones like they do in the us and then a plan is seperate what are the australian laws to that? will they be able to lock it to a specific network?
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