I was under the impression the deal between Apple and AT&T was that Apple cannot release an American version of the iPhone thats 3G until the end of their agreement?

In which case the AU iPhone wouldn't need to be HSPDA compliant to fit in with AT&T but only 3G to allow for a multitude of carriers. Then again, it doesn't seem Apple is into supporting multiple carriers in one country so my guess is that it would just need to support one carrier, most likely Telstra.

all I see here is Telstra this and Telstra that, FYI folks, Three is also on HSDPA too.

3 run HSPDA on there 2100MHz network

So are Vodafone and Optus, for that matter.

They are? hot damn!

Mmm if this does come out I will be finding it hard to choose between touch or 3g iphone. Providing it's easy to unlock.

3g iphone, you know you do...

fuck the ipod touch (sorry to those who preordered/wanting to get it)

The reason people say Testra this and Telstra that is because they've actually got a decent national implementation of HSDPA, not a piddly little inner-CBD-only implementtion.

That's my new plan. I've ordered an iPod Touch and will now wait for the iPhone. I just wish Apple hadn't decided to rip out the ability to add calendar entries! I can live without e-mail and notes but being able to check my appointments without adding new ones will get old fast.

Co-worker: "Hey, are you free monday afternoon?"
Me: *touching away* "Yes, after three."
Co-worker: Shall we meet then?"
Me: *sighs* "Let me pull out my File-O-Fax and find a pencil."

Can't see how holding out on calendar entry is anything other than bad publicity for Apple. I'm hoping I can get decent Google Calendar and iCal synchronisation working because otherwise the iPod Touch is going to end up looking silly when I use it in front of people.

Im sure it wont be long after release someone will have an easy method to get it back

i know a lot of the iphone apps can just be copied across

Although Exocet may be a touch biased, this is quite true. Also, being at 850MHz means that reception is better than 2100MHZ, almost without exception. The lower frequency penetrates buildings much better, which in part is why the frequencies in the upcoming spectrum auctions in the US are so desirable.

That's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong. If Telstra were to offer a decent data plan, I'd be all over it like the proverbial larger person and the small, baked treat with icing, in a little paper holder.

I'm not biased at all. Yes I work for them, but that its not the source of my praise for the network. I praise Telstra's network, not their pricing. Pricing is an issue for me, so when I go to wireless broadband I'll likely be choosing the 3-mobile broadband package. I've said it before and I'll say it again - whatever carrier gets the iPhone, Apple will force them to operate an unlimited data plan, be it Telstra, Optus, Voda or 3.

Yep, right on Exocet - I suspect that'll be reinforced by whatever deals they're announcing in the next hour.

And as you say, pricing will also be a significant issue - people seem to consider the AT&T package reasonably priced for what it includes (particularly the data plan) so the final operator will have to be flexible enough to offer competitive prices to consumers, and generous enough to shell out up to 40% of revenue (if that's to be believed) back to Apple.

Bah - no 3g till late next year!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/18/l...don/3#comments

Yeah we all saw that coming. As if they would launch a better product just for europe. It will still sell like hotcakes.