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Old 19-09-2007, 11:59 AM
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I spoke to an employee of Apple Australia who assured me it was due for the first third of 2008.
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The fact that there is no quote in the article, nor any kind of attribution other than the first sentence:
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The Apple iPhone will not be released in Australia for at least another 14 months Apple executives in London have admitted, and when it does it will not be a 3G phone as was first tipped unless battery life for talk time is improved.
makes the whole thing highly dubious IMHO. Who? What Apple executives? Where's a quote?

No "speaking off the record...", no "a highly-placed insider...", not even a "sources indicate" - just a flat assertion with no substantiation whatsoever. I call shenanigans.
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Old 19-09-2007, 12:12 PM
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Is anyone else concerned that no matter when it does come out - they seem to be setting a trend of going with the 'biggest' and 'most popular' telcos?

In Australia i suspect that Telstra is the 'biggest' although i have my doubts about 'most popular'. I'd bet the public here would have a hard time believing that Telstra is 'most popular'...even if it comes right from SJ's mouth.

Scary.

Here's hoping Phormic is right and we get it first third 08...maybe 'the Jobsanator' will make a stop over on the way back from Europe?

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Old 19-09-2007, 12:22 PM
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Is anyone else concerned that no matter when it does come out - they seem to be setting a trend of going with the 'biggest' and 'most popular' telcos?

In Australia i suspect that Telstra is the 'biggest' although i have my doubts about 'most popular'. I'd bet the public here would have a hard time believing that Telstra is 'most popular'...even if it comes right from SJ's mouth.

Scary.

Here's hoping Phormic is right and we get it first third 08...maybe 'the Jobsanator' will make a stop over on the way back from Europe?

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Well if a 3G iPhone does eventuate by the time it hits Australia, Telstra are in the best spot to have it, as their 3G network is far and beyond the one with largest coverage. If they can package it with an unlimited data plan like in the UK and USA for say, $80/month (including calls) - I'd definietly go to Telstra for that.

If Apple end up using an 850MHz radio with no 2100MHz capailities, we're stuck with Telstra no matter what
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Well if a 3G iPhone does eventuate by the time it hits Australia, Telstra are in the best spot to have it, as their 3G network is far and beyond the one with largest coverage. If they can package it with an unlimited data plan like in the UK and USA for say, $80/month (including calls) - I'd definietly go to Telstra for that.
Add to that they could similarly allow all iPhones onto Telstra CBD wireless connections like the UK deal and you have a pretty good looking package.

Lots of ifs though.
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Old 19-09-2007, 12:48 PM
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Nov 08 right about when my phone contract runs out. marvelous
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Add to that they could similarly allow all iPhones onto Telstra CBD wireless connections like the UK deal and you have a pretty good looking package.

Lots of ifs though.
Telstra have done this before with Nintendo giving free wifi for DS owners.
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Old 19-09-2007, 01:05 PM
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I have had several 3g phones and I don't even notice the battery especially as one of them sat docked at my desk when I was at work. Battery life seems like a poor excuse to me?
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Old 19-09-2007, 01:15 PM
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Hold on a second there.

This is another bullshit non-story by Smarthouse.

There is nothing in the article other than the headline stating that Apple execs said there would be no iPhone in Australia by November 2008. There is no statement from any Apple executives about Australia at all (given they wouldn't discuss Germany or France in London, why the hell would they say anything at all about Australia?). Similarly, there is no statement that the iPhone that does arrive here next year won't be 3G.

This leads me to believe that the author's taken the comment about no 3G until late next year and extrapolated a whole new story to go behind it.

I'm not saying that the iPhone will or won't arrive before then, or whether it'll be 3G. But this is a typically manufactured piece by Smarthouse to attract readers, when really they don't know more than anybody else right now.
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I couldn't find this posted anywhere, but here is yet another rumour of a 3G iphone:

http://flopyamacout.com/2007/09/25/a...eal-leaked-3g/
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Well if a 3G iPhone does eventuate by the time it hits Australia, Telstra are in the best spot to have it, as their 3G network is far and beyond the one with largest coverage. If they can package it with an unlimited data plan like in the UK and USA for say, $80/month (including calls) - I'd definietly go to Telstra for that.

If Apple end up using an 850MHz radio with no 2100MHz capailities, we're stuck with Telstra no matter what
Well I can tell you optus 3g uses the wcdma protocol which is 900mhz which is a freq the iphone can use and plus optus will have 98% of the country covered by the end of 2008 as its wimaz towers will serve as both kinds of anteenas wimax and 3g. So telstra can go suck dog doo as if telstra would get the sole contract they cant by australian law both fed and state have a look on the whirlpool forums www.whirlpool.net.aucheersjunior
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Well I can tell you optus 3g uses the wcdma protocol which is 900mhz which is a freq the iphone can use and plus optus will have 98% of the country covered by the end of 2008 as its wimaz towers will serve as both kinds of anteenas wimax and 3g. So telstra can go suck dog doo as if telstra would get the sole contract they cant by australian law both fed and state have a look on the whirlpool forums www.whirlpool.net.aucheersjunior
You probably want to get your facts straight.

They actually claimed 96% of the Australian population which is very different. according to their press release on their website they are going to cover just under 8.5% of Australia by area.

Also others in Telstra may have a better idea on this, but the Next G network is not bound by the same onerous regulation which is why Telstra is investing so heavily in it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:11 PM
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You probably want to get your facts straight.
Not to mention the whole "australian law both fed and state". Nothing in any law at any level prohibits carrier exclusivity - there are giant ads all over town proclaiming the RAZR2 V9 is exclusive to Telstra.
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Well I can tell you optus 3g uses the wcdma protocol which is 900mhz which is a freq the iphone can use and plus optus will have 98% of the country covered by the end of 2008 as its wimaz towers will serve as both kinds of anteenas wimax and 3g. So telstra can go suck dog doo as if telstra would get the sole contract they cant by australian law both fed and state have a look on the whirlpool forums www.whirlpool.net.aucheersjunior
WCDMA 900MHz is not the same as GSM 900MHz, the same way that WCDMA 850MHz (NextG/AT&T 3G) isn't the same as GSM 850MHz. Furthermore, they certainly can have an exclusive contract for a mobile handset, they do it all the time. There's no federal or state laws against mobile phone exclusivity, so I think you should check your facts
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moved it - wrong thread!

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