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Old 01-06-2007, 04:39 PM
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one point i would makein comparison to menu meters is the lack of graphs for the network display.

in menu meters i could monitor the stability of my downloads from usenet by watching the graphs rather than focussing on the actual numbers.

its not a huge deal, i can run menu meters for the network and iStat menus for everything else.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:46 PM
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one point i would makein comparison to menu meters is the lack of graphs for the network display.
Wont be in 1.0 but will be in 1.1
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:56 PM
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Wont be in 1.0 but will be in 1.1
ok, thanks - it is a very attractive app. iSlayer. i did find i had to do a bit of pick and choosing with what i display in the menu bar on my 15" PB - too many items for them to all display now!!

another possible idea would be an option to show day and date in your clock interface (as opposed to just the date), then we could remove the day from the default clock and have it just display time with iStat menu displaying day & date on menu bar.

if it were possible to hide the default clock completely then an even better option would be to display time, day & date with iStat menu but i cant see a way to hide the clock completely - seems to be display in menu bar or as a window.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:05 PM
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if it were possible to hide the default clock completely then an even better option would be to display time, day & date with iStat menu but i cant see a way to hide the clock completely - seems to be display in menu bar or as a window.
To hide Apple's clock menu extra hold down the command key then drag it off the menubar and release the mouse and it will be gone.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:14 PM
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Whooooooooooooooo! Nice one guys!
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:40 PM
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Nice - giving it a whirl now - I've replaced my MenuMeters and it's looking good so far.

One suggestion I miss from MenuMeters is that your Network monitor doesn't have a graphing option (like you have for CPU/Memory). Also for the Network drop down pane - it would be good if the primary adapter appeared at the top of the list followed by the next configured adapter and so on - my list is sorted in reverse.

Also it would be nice if you could click something in the CPU drop down pane and it would bring up Activity Monitor (for even further process details).
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:44 PM
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Looks great

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Nice - giving it a whirl now - I've replaced my MenuMeters and it's looking good so far.

One suggestion I miss from MenuMeters is that your Network monitor doesn't have a graphing option (like you have for CPU/Memory). Also for the Network drop down pane - it would be good if the primary adapter appeared at the top of the list followed by the next configured adapter and so on - my list is sorted in reverse.

Also it would be nice if you could click something in the CPU drop down pane and it would bring up Activity Monitor (for even further process details).
I agree with Remorhaz's comments on the network interface order shown in the drop down sheet. I believe it should show the same network interface order as the Network System Preferences. I also noticed that it does not list active but disconnected interfaces (such as my built-in ethernet at the moment) nor VPN connections, connected or not.

Keep up the great work.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:12 PM
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Sorry I haven't asked this in the private beta, forgot about it, but with the clock extra you have in iStat menus, would it be possible to add seconds to it? Then I can have the more powerful clock up instead of the apple one, and then the data icon of iStat menus time and clock.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:05 AM
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Trying the beta, highly impressed, I have a few real comments I suppose.

I notice that the fonts in the menu bar are not antialiased. I'd actually kind of like to have that as an option, or if they actually are antialiased, you should look at the slash on the network meter because it looks pixelated.

and I'd love to see the cpu meter also have a field to display the current speed of the processor (ie like coreduotemp) and possibly have a different font or an option to have 2 lines with each showing the separate cores, love to see the memory meter implement the functionality of rogue amoeba's memory cell, love to see the drive meter implement the ability to eject a drive from the list (ala ejector.app), but the sole real functionality that jumps out at me as missing is a good battery meter. I'm aware of the existence of slimbatterymonitor, but it'd be nice to have an istat menus bit for it.

Love it tho. Most of my complaints are cosmetic with regard to some of the spacing and fonts, but there's nothing glaringly messed up. The cpu meter has the vertical meter placed after the text rather than before it like with graph meter. Currently using the date/time, cpu as vertical, hdd as vertical, memory as vertical, and the network interface. I've tried the text interfaces for all of them, but I don't need detailed information for each one, so this suffices.

Kudos, kudos indeed.

Forgot to mention, the network menu extra does not have an external ip line. Dunno if that should be in there or not.

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Old 02-06-2007, 08:26 AM
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Agree with Sambo: Seconds would be great for the clock menu!
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:29 AM
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would it be possible to add seconds to it?
Don't see why not. I'm not a fan of showing seconds, so it'll probably be an option

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Trying the beta, highly impressed, I have a few real comments I suppose.
No probs

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I notice that the fonts in the menu bar are not antialiased.
They are being antialiased... that's just the way OS X is drawing them. If you're talking about the small "HD" and "CPU" bits to the left of some of the extras, then that's intentional. It's usually considered bad practice to antialias really small text as it usually detracts from legibility. We'll look at that though. We're going to have to do something as that's one of the only parts of ism that's not ready for resolution independence.

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you should look at the slash on the network meter because it looks pixelated.
????

The 0KB/s <-- the slash there? If so, that's just text drawn by OS X... It is being antialiased, but I agree it doesn't look perfect. I think that's just a mix of the size and angle of the line. I don't know if there's much we can do about it.

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and I'd love to see the cpu meter also have a field to display the current speed of the processor (ie like coreduotemp)
As in, "2.16ghz"?

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the sole real functionality that jumps out at me as missing is a good battery meter.
It's coming

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Forgot to mention, the network menu extra does not have an external ip line. Dunno if that should be in there or not.
Hmmm. I'll check with iSlayer.
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One suggestion I miss from MenuMeters is that your Network monitor doesn't have a graphing option (like you have for CPU/Memory).
will be in 1.1

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Also for the Network drop down pane - it would be good if the primary adapter appeared at the top of the list followed by the next configured adapter and so on - my list is sorted in reverse.
No problem.i *should* be able to sort that out

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Also it would be nice if you could click something in the CPU drop down pane and it would bring up Activity Monitor (for even further process details).
Unfortunatly by using our custom windows we cant do anything like that
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:40 AM
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but the sole real functionality that jumps out at me as missing is a good battery meter. I'm aware of the existence of slimbatterymonitor, but it'd be nice to have an istat menus bit for it.
We are planning to add a bettery meter in 1.2 or 1.3.

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The cpu meter has the vertical meter placed after the text rather than before it like with graph meter.
Ill swap them around in the next beta.

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Forgot to mention, the network menu extra does not have an external ip line. Dunno if that should be in there or not.
havn't made a decision about that yet. It was supposed to be there initially but certain classes (such as the one id normally use to get the IP) dont work well in menu extras. I can work around that but im not 100% sure if it will be 1.0 or delayed until 1.1
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:40 AM
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As in, "2.16ghz"?
yeah. all of the intel chips use speedstep to dynamically change the speed the chip is running at. it'd be nice if you had that information available in one of the menu widgets.

thanks for the responses. didn't realize the fonts were antialiased, but I've been spoiled by memory cell using a smaller font and how menumeters looks with antialiased text so its a difference when the sizing is there.

i think my assumption that istat wasnt antialiased was based on the fact that you use the same size for the cpu meter numbers as the time font which looks a little weird to my eye and the network fonts are bolded. Looks different than I'm used to is all I suppose.

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Old 02-06-2007, 10:53 AM
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yeah. all of the intel chips use speedstep to dynamically change the speed the chip is running at. it'd be nice if you had that information available in one of the menu widgets.
Ill have to check but i have a feeling that wont be possible. All the apps ive seen that do it using kext's which we wont use ever in iStat menus. If i can find i way to get it without a kext ill let you know
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