[DazR6]

Navigon has just done a update and so far speed limits are finally working and sos direct help is added now! Google local seach. It's starting to catch up to TomTom!

[kyte]

Originally Posted by DazR6

Navigon has just done a update and so far speed limits are finally working and sos direct help is added now! Google local seach. It's starting to catch up to TomTom!

Good news, but where do you live? metro area?

[edit] I've just been and read the itunes page. Looks like theres been a price drop as well ($69.99 until January 11th). AND they have added a very nice touch for the in-app music, a choice between music and audiobook mode... I'm assuming books will stop and start, and music will fade in and out. Very nice. I could be persuaded to switch if speed zones and cameras were now working outside metro areas

[DazR6]

I'm on the Gold Coast.

[kyte]

Originally Posted by DazR6

I'm on the Gold Coast.

OK, that sounds promising then. Complete review coming up in the fullness of time

[eaglesteve2]

That's good news. However, since it stillnuses Navteq rather than Sensis, you're going to find that speed data on many roads (even in Sydney) are missing.

[DazR6]

Well so far some side streets don't have speed limits but all main roads do from my first 3 drives. School zone don't appear to be working. But maybe it is because it's a weekend not a weekday, can someone let me know if Tomtom or Sygic only works during school hours for school zones or does it fire off a warning no matter what time of day it is?
The speed warnings are only a warning voice saying "beware" when you go over the limit. You can set 5, 10, 15,20 up to 35 km/h over.

[eaglesteve2]

Originally Posted by DazR6

Well so far some side streets don't have speed limits but all main roads do from my first 3 drives. School zone don't appear to be working. But maybe it is because it's a weekend not a weekday, can someone let me know if Tomtom or Sygic only works during school hours for school zones or does it fire off a warning no matter what time of day it is?
The speed warnings are only a warning voice saying "beware" when you go over the limit. You can set 5, 10, 15,20 up to 35 km/h over.

None of the GPS is smart enough to warn only during school hours. If it warns, it will be at all times.

[kyte]

Alas... still no cameras or speed information in and around Newcastle. You'd think Navteq would make a greater effort. Gold Coast is so close to Brisbane, I guess its included as part of the metro area. Must go for a run to the central coast and see if Navigon improves there.

[DazR6]

Bugger no red light cameras! Oh well I have to wait for the next update then.

[DazR6]

Well after driving around over the weekend it's nice to know what the speed limit is on each road but now my wife keeps saying your speeding everytime the warning goes off! I'm not sure if I like it now!!!

Nine iPhone GPS navigation apps compared | Software | iPhone Central - Page 2 | Macworld

Wow so they rate Navigon higher as a 4 and Sygic as a 2 and Tomtom as a 3.5

So that's a complete opposite to your reviews! LMAO

[kyte]

Originally Posted by DazR6

Well after driving around over the weekend it's nice to know what the speed limit is on each road but now my wife keeps saying your speeding everytime the warning goes off! I'm not sure if I like it now!!!

Nine iPhone GPS navigation apps compared | Software | iPhone Central - Page 2 | Macworld

Wow so they rate Navigon higher as a 4 and Sygic as a 2 and Tomtom as a 3.5

So that's a complete opposite to your reviews! LMAO

I'm not surprised, its an American mag. Navteq maps are best over there, better than ALK or TeleAtlas... so Navigon would be expected to be top of the class

[eaglesteve2]

Never look at the review of another country to form opinion on what you should buy in a different country.

During my winmo days, I used TomTom in Australia but in Asia I used MapKing and Garmin because TT did'nt even have maps for most of those countries then.

Map makes or break user experience. That's why after trying out every one for the Aussie market I stick with TomTom and Sygic because they use the Sensis map.

[kyte]

Originally Posted by eaglesteve2

I stick with TomTom and Sygic because they use the Sensis map.

+1. I've tried all the others and none come close. For me, Tomtom has overtaken Sygic because it can *easily* read the addresses in my contact list. Sygic still has issues. However, I still use Sygic when I am not being guided because it still dishes out warnings, whereas tomtom doesnt seem to.

[DazR6]

Fair enough, good point. But I can't afford to buy all of them to see which one works best, so I just have to hope and wait for Navigon to catch up.

[eaglesteve2]

Looks like the the POI problem has been sorted out. However Sygic had not consolidated the red light/speed camera. There are still five of them and shown as overlapping icons on the map.

Still can't disable the display of traffic light without putting a black question mark. Annoying.

They have not introduced iPhone keyboard yet unfortunately, so a little disappointed here. However, it was a hugh improvement over the previous keyboard.

The scrolling of lists and menu is good. Very happy here.

The map zooming by pinching works excellently. Love that.

Tiny bugs noted. The lane assistant still shows incorrect lane for cross intersection. Instead if showing only lanes which go straight, it incorrectly highlight turning lane as well. Hope to see this fixed.

Glad that now POI warning can be selected to include only schools and not lumped together with Universities and Kintergarden.

In the next version I like to see the option of audio feedback when touching the menu choices and keyboard key. Similar to Copilot and iGo.

Overall very pleased with this upgrade. It has won me back from TomTom for three reasons:
1) school zone warning
2) the speed limit display. TomTom's is harder to be read with a quick glance. It is also completely missing whenever advanced lane guidance appear.
3) I like the ability to have my own speed tolerance.

It does not have music control but I only listen to radio on the road, not my iPod music.

[DazR6]

It's not an upgrade, you have to pay for it apparently! $69.99!!!!

[kyte]

Originally Posted by DazR6

It's not an upgrade, you have to pay for it apparently! $69.99!!!!

Apparently not if you already own it. The $69.99 is a promotional price drop for those who don't already have it... normal price is $10 more

[Darwiniandude]

From the latest Sygic update they've added a few more voices, Ryan US is still the best but I prefer one of the UK ones complete with humorous mispronounciations including "traffic circle" instead of round a bout, which is awesome.

Anyway, they've added pinch zoom(clunky but it works) a significantly improved keyboard and the icons are nicer. You can flick scroll long lists and it no longer asks which country you're in each and every time.

[billenya]

Finally took the plunge and got Sygic. Overall yeah it's good, but I have to wonder about accuracy - the street numbers in my street in the maps are a whole block off... I put in my home address and it directed me straight past my house and down to the next block!

I thought they used the Sensis maps? I checked my address in WhereIs (Sensis) and it's correct in there...

[kyte]

Originally Posted by billenya

Finally took the plunge and got Sygic. Overall yeah it's good, but I have to wonder about accuracy - the street numbers in my street in the maps are a whole block off... I put in my home address and it directed me straight past my house and down to the next block!

I thought they used the Sensis maps? I checked my address in WhereIs (Sensis) and it's correct in there...

I've become a bit concerned about Sygic after the last two updates. Maps were more accurate in older versions. Sygic Simon completely misdirected me the other day, it was sheer luck that a no through road prevented me from following the direction, so I had to go the opposite way and it turned out that was exactly where I needed to be. Sygic was calling left instead of right. Simon seemed to have become directionally dyslexic.

I've begun using tomtom again.