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08-11-2008, 08:30 PM
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Location: Sydney
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USB 2.0 PCI Cards...
So today I was walking near my friends place and they were having a council cleanup and sitting out there in the cold was a G4(AGP) and I decided I had to have it! Brought it home and discovered all the fans were buggered so a bit of PSU surgery later and I've got myself a new computer! I already love it to bits!
Only problem now is USB 2.0... I have a card that was in my old windows machine and so I stuck it in and it shows up in System Profiler as:
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USB High-Speed Bus:
Host Controller Location: Expansion Slot
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x3104
PCI Revision ID: 0x0063
PCI Vendor ID: 0x1106
Bus Number: 0x43
but nothing I plug into it works... My external HDD's name shows up sometimes (Not the volume name, the model name of the drive) but it doesn't appear in disk utility or mount. My USB flash drives light up when plugged in but don't even show up in system profiler. I get this message in console:
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===== Saturday, 8 November 2008 9:27:55 PM Australia/Sydney =====
Nov 8 21:28:41 Sawtooth kernel[0]: USBF: 3229.324 ControlTransaction: control packet 1 error 0xe0004057
Nov 8 21:28:41 Sawtooth kernel[0]: USBF: 3229.324 [0x17dc500] The IOUSBFamily was not able to enumerate a device.
I was wondering is there something I need to do to get the card working? Any help appreciated!
As a side note... I also discovered my old toshiba 16-bit PCMCIA wireless card works in the machine's airport card slot! Only problem is it's too long and you can't shut the case...
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08-11-2008, 09:03 PM
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Location: Sydney
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Only NEC chipset PCI cards work, anything made by VIA won't. (from my experience)
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08-11-2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sharpeskii
As a side note... I also discovered my old toshiba 16-bit PCMCIA wireless card works in the machine's airport card slot! Only problem is it's too long and you can't shut the case...
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Good luck getting that to work - IMO, you'll have a hell of a time getting it to work unless it's Atheros or Broadcom based (from memory). |
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08-11-2008, 09:39 PM
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I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Group: Regulars
Location: Sydney
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I've got a Railink based Linksys card which works with additional drivers – I couldn't find a broadcom based card at the time & this one was pretty cheap.
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08-11-2008, 10:15 PM
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Location: Sydney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bennyling
Good luck getting that to work - IMO, you'll have a hell of a time getting it to work unless it's Atheros or Broadcom based (from memory).
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Not sure which chipset it has but it works fine!
Turns out you need a driver for the USB card and when I tried the one from VIA it brought the computer to a complete stand still so it looks like it's no USB 2.0 for now...
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08-11-2008, 11:32 PM
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Forum Leader
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Location: QLD, Aust.
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Originally Posted by sharpeskii
Not sure which chipset it has but it works fine!
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I'd take a stab on it being based on a WaveLAN/ORiNOCO chipset - a lot of those 16 bit PCMCIA WiFi cards were based on that chipset, as were the original Apple AirPort cards. I've heard reports before of people successfully substituting WaveLAN cards as AirPort cards, but the same as you, the cards' inbuilt antennas stick out too far for it to really be convenient.
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09-11-2008, 07:20 AM
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Pimp My Title
Group: Forum Leaders
Location: Melbourne
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Most generic NEC and VIA chipset USB 2.0 cards work, sounds like yours is one of the odd ones out and will never work. I say wait until you find another old PC to butcher and throw it in then 
You should be able to gently remove the PCMCIA wireless card's extended plastic housing and solder the antenna back in another way ... or the other way is to bend the pins and card upwards slightly to make it fit. Nice that it works straight out of the box.
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09-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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Location: Sydney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byrd
Most generic NEC and VIA chipset USB 2.0 cards work, sounds like yours is one of the odd ones out and will never work. I say wait until you find another old PC to butcher and throw it in then |
I broke my no spending money on things you get for free rule and bought it a $15 NEC card off ebay!
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Originally Posted by Byrd
You should be able to gently remove the PCMCIA wireless card's extended plastic housing and solder the antenna back in another way ... or the other way is to bend the pins and card upwards slightly to make it fit. Nice that it works straight out of the box.
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That was the plan - it even has a slot for the antenna that's inside the case so I was just going to pull the antenna off the card but after much struggle and silent prayers that I didn't break anything important I managed to get it apart only to find that the PCB ran all the way to the back of the plastic bit... Foiled again!
I am tempted to bend the pins upwards on the motherboard but that could end badly... If I were any good with a slodering iron/whatever I'd need, I'd make an adapter that turned it all 90 degrees
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09-11-2008, 11:36 AM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Brisbane
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I tried a cheap VIA chipset card in my MDD and it would run at USB 1 speed with no drivers, but didn't work at all when the VIA driver / KEXT file was installed.
So I went with a Belkin card that uses an NEC chipset, and have USB 2.0 now using just the Apple driver.
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09-11-2008, 01:24 PM
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Location: Sydney
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I win! I managed to get my wireless card in there! It's exactly this one Using a PCMCIA Wireless 802.11b Card in a PowerMac G4 well exactly to the point where mine says TOSHIBA and the one on this site says COMPAQ...
I just bent it, broke one pin on the card, was temporarily remorseful until I decided to stab at it with a tiny screwdriver enough to get contact again for that pin (interestingly I discovered a shorting between the pin I broke and the one under it opens the cd drive) and voila! Wireless networking! 
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10-11-2008, 01:19 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Belkin cards work wonders.
Have a Belkin USB2 PCI card in my MDD G4 and it works beautifully.
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10-11-2008, 07:07 PM
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Pimp My Title
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Location: Melbourne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpeskii
(interestingly I discovered a shorting between the pin I broke and the one under it opens the cd drive0
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There's nothing like playing with electricity to produce a completely random event - crazy stuff! Glad to hear it's all going well now. Your next step: flash a Radeon 9800 card to mac - these cards are dirt cheap now ...
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