[dolbinau]

Originally Posted by drzeus

Frankly I HIGHLY doubt that. Phones from 5 years ago had the capability to do voice dialing among other things while having much lesser specs than the iphone, even if it runs a more sophisticated OS.

Voice control really isn't very taxing on hardware.

I think it is purely a marketing ploy to bolster the features of the new iphone. Same thing with the limitation of video recording. The old 3g phone had no problems handling video recording when jail broken!

Though I agree with you, here is the counter argument that has been used to your video recording analogy:

The Jailbroken video was lower resolution and low FPS, Apple want people to control the experience people have.

(My response is they sell software with minimum requires below 'optimum experience' e.g. iLife '09).

Maybe Jailbreaking will live on in the 3.0 firmware to unlock the official features not supported :P.

[retroneo]

Originally Posted by NeoRicen

I'm pretty sure the voice data was sent to google and processed there in that app.

Nuance Voice Control built in to the iPhone 3GS does this too for the more complex queries (i.e. iPod control)

[shivstar]

Originally Posted by dolbinau

Though I agree with you, here is the counter argument that has been used to your video recording analogy:

The Jailbroken video was lower resolution and low FPS, Apple want people to control the experience people have.

I agree with that... I think although technically possible on the iPhone 3G, the overall end user experience and performance is probably just not up to scratch for what Apple want.

[NeoRicen]

Originally Posted by drzeus

Frankly I HIGHLY doubt that. Phones from 5 years ago had the capability to do voice dialing among other things while having much lesser specs than the iphone, even if it runs a more sophisticated OS.

Yes, but on those phones you had to record the voice dialing command, and the phone merely compares what you say to it to an existing sample, rather than processing a wide variety of voices and accents and executing commands.

Originally Posted by retroneo

Nuance Voice Control built in to the iPhone 3GS does this too for the more complex queries (i.e. iPod control)

Are you sure about that? It pretty much rules out Voice Control for the next iPod touch if true.

[macaholic]

Yes.
If you really want voice-dialling, pay the money for Voicebox Dialler. It's not perfect, but it's the only one that does Australian accents.

[politik]

Originally Posted by NORMANDY

incorrect... that is not the case, as jail broken iphone3Gs show

This is the same argument that lead to people believing that Apple might add video to the 3G, just because 'the jailbreak can do it' (sic) - the hardware can do it, but only in the same way that you could run iTunes 8.2 on a 66Mhz CPU - it could be hacked to work, but it would still be shit.

[canonafficionado]

Originally Posted by NeoRicen

I'm pretty sure the voice data was sent to google and processed there in that app.

Yes I agree - definitely processed at the Google end and then simple, text results sent back to the phone.

[canonafficionado]

Does anyone know if Voice Control will 'read out' who is calling?

When you're listening to tunes and the phone interrupts, but it's in your pocket, it would be nice to get a voice telling you the caller so you can decide if it's worth interrupting the Rick Astley ballad to take the call.

[NeoRicen]

Originally Posted by canonafficionado

Does anyone know if Voice Control will 'read out' who is calling?

When you're listening to tunes and the phone interrupts, but it's in your pocket, it would be nice to get a voice telling you the caller so you can decide if it's worth interrupting the Rick Astley ballad to take the call.

Voice Control won't, but there is a Voice Over Feature that presumably would, but that also reads everything else.

[The Fluffy Duck]

Originally Posted by drzeus

Frankly I HIGHLY doubt that. Phones from 5 years ago had the capability to do voice dialing among other things while having much lesser specs than the iphone, even if it runs a more sophisticated OS.

Voice control really isn't very taxing on hardware.

I think it is purely a marketing ploy to bolster the features of the new iphone. Same thing with the limitation of video recording. The old 3g phone had no problems handling video recording when jail broken!

Yeah I agree. That "hardware limitation" fools alot of mac users. I had an Erricson, (yup before sony partnered up with them) that could do voice. People are trying to tell me that a device that is faster than a PSP cant do voice dialling. BULLSHIT!!!

Must have somthing to seperate the products.

[canonafficionado]

Originally Posted by NeoRicen

Voice Control won't, but there is a Voice Over Feature that presumably would, but that also reads everything else.

Thanks NR. Can easily get the sense that too much Voice Over for functionality would get tiring pretty quick. Except maybe for turn-by-turn.

[AdrianM]

Originally Posted by NeoRicen

Yes, but on those phones you had to record the voice dialing command, and the phone merely compares what you say to it to an existing sample, rather than processing a wide variety of voices and accents and executing commands.

This was the case originally, but I had a motorola that did voice commands built purely off my written contacts, I never had to record anything and it had an excellent hit rate. So again, if a 5 yr old Motorola could do it....

[mitty]

Originally Posted by canonafficionado

Does anyone know if Voice Control will 'read out' who is calling?

Just set a different ringtone for each of your contacts. All the people who call me the most often have their own ringtone (which basically relates to their personality, or is related to something they are interested in, eg one friend of mine is a huge Futurama fan so I've got the Futurama theme as his ringtone).

Of course if you have hundreds of contacts this may be a bit annoying

[canonafficionado]

Not a bad idea Mitty. I'll think i'll load a few ringtones into Itunes and starting linking them to mates.

Now I gotta think what tone for the boss calls???