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Old 30-07-2008, 06:02 PM
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What a steaming pile of shit.

Any company could do that with their product... get enough dumb people in a room and film them and a few will say enough for you to make an ad out of it...
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Old 30-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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Of course! The only problem with Vista is its name. And the box it comes in.
You can wrap a turd up in a big red ribbon, but it's still a turd.
You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter
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Old 30-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Wait a minute...are you all actually that biased that you won't even give Microsoft the time of day to do what every other company does? Everyone has failed products, everyone tries to fix those failed products.

Irrespective of whether you guys are joking or whatever, why can't we just drop this repetitive, snobby little attitude of, "oh my God - Vista and everything Microsoft has ever done as a company is shit".
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Old 30-07-2008, 06:11 PM
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That was terrible, so fake and artificial!

To quote someone from the video:

"Wow, it blew my mind..."

They must have cut this out after he said it... "how crap it was".
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Old 30-07-2008, 06:14 PM
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Wait a minute...are you all actually that biased that you won't even give Microsoft the time of day to do what every other company does? Everyone has failed products, everyone tries to fix those failed products.

Irrespective of whether you guys are joking or whatever, why can't we just drop this repetitive, snobby little attitude of, "oh my God - Vista and everything Microsoft has ever done as a company is shit".
Ricky it really isn't any different than the Ford and Holden fanboys argument.

Your on Mac forum where there are going to be many members which cannot stand Microsoft in anyway.

I respect that.

I for one do use XP at home on a HP computer as I need it for some work programs and find it fine. However Vista I find terrible. It slows my whole system down to the point where it is just frustrating to use.

I don't hate Microsoft with a passion...just their latest operating system.

Give me XP anytime over Vista!
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Old 30-07-2008, 06:28 PM
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It is interesting that the people in the video seemed to be everyday users, rather than corporate types.

Obviously it is staged, or if not they used a very small micro-sample of the people interviewed.

I don't Microsoft are hurting THAT much but I think that they must be a little dismayed at the buzz that Apple is generating. It must really stick in their maw. I think they assumed that Vista would be widely adopted simply because it was a new version. I believe that most people are very comfortable with XP and know how to do what they want, they see no compelling reason to upgrade.

As Mac users we are more focussed and like to push the envelope a bit more.
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This kind of thing shits me to tears. Here's why:

1) It's completely one-sided. They're showing these people all the positive things about Vista, nothing negative at all. Likely no mention of DRM issues, stability issues, compatibility and driver issues, security issues... The list goes on. Click on 'You Can't Please Everyone' WTF is up with that? There'd be far more people who aren't convinced, and have way more issues with it than that, Microsoft just aren't showing them (plus, they didn't answer the dude's question).
If it's an ad for Microsoft, why would they be giving negative information? They're trying to sell a product. You don't seriously think that advertising works like that do you?
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Obviously they did not allow anyone to try an install this renamed operating system onto their PC... otherwise they would see the true story.

Mojave is the name of a desert... very fitting as users desert Vista for the older sibling WindowsXP.
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Old 30-07-2008, 06:55 PM
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Personally I think Microsoft have done alot of the world of PC's and anyone who doesn't think that is a little naive.

However, any company, Microsoft or not, who takes this approach to selling their product, in my opinion has a bad product and they're appealing to the lowest common denominator.

"Oh well if that guy liked it when he didn't originally, then surely I will to"

It's not a solid argument and if that's what you're replying on then you're dead in the water.

It's not fanboy/fangirl-ism, it's just plain old dislike with this kind of con...
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Old 30-07-2008, 07:03 PM
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If it's an ad for Microsoft, why would they be giving negative information? They're trying to sell a product. You don't seriously think that advertising works like that do you?
That's exactly my point. They call it an 'experiment' yet it's done for advertising purposes. The two do not go hand-in-hand, and there WOULD have been negative feedback, it's just the MS chose not to show it (obviously). Therefore, calling it an 'experiment' is absolute BS. It also fails as an advert, as far as I'm concerned BECAUSE of its one-sided nature. This particular form of advertising can work well, but only on certain things. Vista isn't one of them.
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Old 30-07-2008, 07:07 PM
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Wait a minute...are you all actually that biased that you won't even give Microsoft the time of day to do what every other company does? Everyone has failed products, everyone tries to fix those failed products.

Irrespective of whether you guys are joking or whatever, why can't we just drop this repetitive, snobby little attitude of, "oh my God - Vista and everything Microsoft has ever done as a company is shit".
No doubt people here are biased, but this is a shocking marketing scheme regardless.

Vista has problems, this is a fact. People are avoiding upgrading to Vista, this is a fact. People are downgrading from Vista to XP, this is a fact. That's not fanboyism, it's the simple truth.

A truth Microsoft is fully aware.

But, instead of fixing the problems that are causing people to avoid and even downgrade from Vista, Microsoft instead dupes people and simply says, "There's nothing wrong with Vista, it's all in your head and your a fool for believing otherwise."

That is insulting.
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Wait a minute...are you all actually that biased that you won't even give Microsoft the time of day to do what every other company does? Everyone has failed products, everyone tries to fix those failed products.

Irrespective of whether you guys are joking or whatever, why can't we just drop this repetitive, snobby little attitude of, "oh my God - Vista and everything Microsoft has ever done as a company is shit".
Wow. I think you got the wrong end of the stick. What I've said in this thread has nothing to do with my feelings towards Microsoft at all. I don't hate MS, I don't love them either, and I use their products, as do many of us. Their advertising campaign for Vista didn't make me go "HAHA Microsoft is so shit". It made me go "This particular advert is so shit" for the reasons previously mentioned. Believe it or not, it is possible to put one's feelings aside and critique something objectively and without bias.
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Wait a minute...are you all actually that biased that you won't even give Microsoft the time of day to do what every other company does? Everyone has failed products, everyone tries to fix those failed products.

Irrespective of whether you guys are joking or whatever, why can't we just drop this repetitive, snobby little attitude of, "oh my God - Vista and everything Microsoft has ever done as a company is shit".
I use my Windows XP machine once every few months. I use Windows XP at school. I use Windows XP at my parent's work. My mum and sisters all have a laptop, running Vista. Their vista machines (2.0ghz, 2gb ram) all are slower than my XP machine, with 755MHZ (yes MEGA-HERTZ) and 640MB ram.
Then when running Ubuntu off a Disc... Optical disc. it runs faster than the lot of them.

This is just a pure, real life example of how crap it is.
And I do give them the time of day to try out their apps and products. I went to the local PC store when Vista was launched, just so I could see what it was like.
Shocked at how lame and buggy it was, I've been trying to steer everyone clear of it, because I know, just how hard it is to do anything with the OS. Just loading the control panel takes a good 10->15 sec.

I will give MS the time of day, it's just they have so many more things that they have done that just fail, and as a result, have such a negative vibe around them (especially in a forum with Mac fans).
Windows, Internet Explorer, and that lil media device that's "...not like an iPod...", Zune.
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Old 31-07-2008, 12:42 AM
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LOL, has anyone managed to watch the fourth video from the left, top row?

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Old 31-07-2008, 02:57 AM
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If it's an ad for Microsoft, why would they be giving negative information? They're trying to sell a product. You don't seriously think that advertising works like that do you?
That is what exactly the ad is about.. The ''good'' side of Vista. Just as a "Get-a-Mac" ad would highlight the good points of a Mac, this "Mojave Experiment" thing is just a way for Microsoft to highlight the nice side of Vista, a bit without that much flair.

You could pretty much apply the same comment on this thread on Apple's "Get-a-Mac" thread if it weren't for the satire-esq way it's presented in.

Not a fan of either OS as I share a love-hate relationship between MS and Apple..
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