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16-03-2008, 05:18 AM
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japan to terminate & black-ban P2Pers
Japan to strip Internet for illegal downloaders: report - Yahoo! News
Japan's internet industry is about to embark on the most draconian anti-piracy measures ever. Any user found to be illegally sharing or downloading copyrighted material will have their internet service terminated and their names entered onto a national ISP-maintained blacklist. No warnings, no second chances, no reprieve.
What's interesting is that this is the national industry instigating this, and not an action by the government.
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16-03-2008, 05:34 AM
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not much point in having super fast internet with large download limits in japan then is it!!
nevermind, i am sure it will just lead to the development of new technology to get around it.
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16-03-2008, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Brains
What's interesting is that this is the national industry instigating this, and not an action by the government.
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Makes sense. I'm sure ISP's would all love to go back to the old 90/10 rule to save on bandwidth costs and maximise profits. |
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16-03-2008, 05:44 AM
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The music industry won a first-of-a-kind victory in a US court in October when a single mother in Minnesota was ordered to pay more than 220,000 dollars for sharing 24 songs online.
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That's just messed up. With thousands of people downloading GB's of movies, songs and programs, and yet they target some poor single-mother who shared a few songs. That's like busting the kid that stole a candy-bar 'cause you can't catch the people who consistently rob the store each night. |
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16-03-2008, 06:50 AM
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In a country that prides itself on copying and refining ideas of others!
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16-03-2008, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Brains
Any user found to be illegally sharing or downloading copyrighted material will have their internet service terminated and their names entered onto a national ISP-maintained blacklist. No warnings, no second chances, no reprieve.
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Actually, the newspaper quoted in the Yahoo! story says this:
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...service providers would send e-mails to people who repeatedly made illegal copies and terminate their connections if they did not stop.
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It's a minor point, and does not alter the fact that it is a draconian step.
However, it's not that surprising when you think about it - Japan is a very law abiding society, and if the music, movie and video game industries have managed to convince the ISPs that they're being harmed by this, then this is a fairly logical step.
I agree with Galumay though - it will drive the development of alternatives (encryption, private networks, etc.)
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16-03-2008, 07:58 AM
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Laws are useless if they're not enforced. Good on them.
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16-03-2008, 08:01 AM
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When did stealing become acceptable?
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16-03-2008, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fiark
When did stealing become acceptable?
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I am not condoning theft, but P2P is here to stay now..
time to get over it i recon 
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16-03-2008, 08:12 AM
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It's not theft if you're not taking anything. all you're doing is making a copy. |
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16-03-2008, 08:19 AM
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Are we seriously going to have this argument again? Ugh.
Anyway, I'm more concerned by the 'innocent bystander' toll this will take. Because lets face it, the RIAA and other industry sniffer dogs aren't exactly blood hounds.
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16-03-2008, 08:37 AM
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It's not theft if you're not taking anything. all you're doing is making a copy.
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It's called 'copyright' for a reason. You have no legal right to make and distribute copies of copyrighted material, without consent of the copyright holders.
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16-03-2008, 08:39 AM
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However, it's not that surprising when you think about it - Japan is a very law abiding society...
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Since when?
Someone should probably tell the Yakuza this... |
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16-03-2008, 09:11 AM
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The Yomiuri Shimbun estimated that 1.75 million people in Japan use file-sharing software, mostly to swap illegal copies.
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I'm sure 1.75 million people in my suburb of Tokyo were using filesharing software, mostly to swap illegal copies.
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16-03-2008, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by half goon half god
It's called 'copyright' for a reason.
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I agree. People are breaching copyright.
However stealing = theft and breaching copyright = illegal copying.
They are *not* the same thing (and it gets rather old when people claim they are).
An analogy for those having trouble realizing this.
A person robbing a bank is not doing the same thing as someone who's counterfeiting money.
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I'm not trying to excuse or justify illegal file sharing... I'm just point out that the term stealing isn't accurate
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