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17-12-2007, 03:05 PM
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[Mega-merge] HD DVD vs Blu-ray
I was doing a bit of research last night regarding the 2 formats on the market, HD DVD and Blueray.
It seems there are more companies going blueray then HD DVD at this point in time.
Im contemplating buying a PS3, for its price at $649, im getting a blueray player and state of the art gaming system.
Can any one detere me from buying a PS3/Blueray player?
any comments on either formats would be great.
cheers,
Last edited by marc; 05-01-2008 at 02:14 PM.
Reason: Corrected Blu-ray spelling!
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17-12-2007, 03:08 PM
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Apple's chosen Bluray. Bluray for me. I just wish they'd hurry up and incorporate it in their machines.
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17-12-2007, 03:10 PM
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still too early to pick it, although hd dvd has had it rough in the last few weeks. do a search in the forums there's some interesting stuff in here.
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17-12-2007, 03:20 PM
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most of the movie houses are blu-ray. i think thats the winner, like vhs/beta not always the best the one that gets the biggest footprint.
i read they werre $599 somewhere?
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17-12-2007, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tintinaujapon
Apple's chosen Bluray.
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Where'd you hear that?
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17-12-2007, 03:28 PM
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Apple is on the Blueray board.
HD-DVD does have the pornography market though, so it may still win.
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17-12-2007, 03:33 PM
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still to close to call, for a different perspective look at how cheap hd dvd players are in the states. Sales are very healthy there. If it wasnt for the sales of the ps3 blue ray would be struggling and there are studies out there saying a big proportion of those who have ps3's still dont buy blueray movies. compared with sd dvd's the numbers are still extremely small. In australia there has been like between 3-4000 players total sold. As far as im concerned I dont care who wins all I want to see is a hd format that brings us hd in plentiful numbers, at cheap reasonable prices. I would never get a player at current prices. A player here costs on average 600 + dollars. You can get them in the states for just under 200US.
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17-12-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver
Apple is on the Blueray board.
HD-DVD does have the pornography market though, so it may still win.
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also on the hd dvd one from memory.
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17-12-2007, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gti4dr
I was doing a bit of research last night regarding the 2 formats on the market, HD DVD and Blueray.
It seems there are more companies going blueray then HD DVD at this point in time.
Im contemplating buying a PS3, for its price at $649, im getting a blueray player and state of the art gaming system.
Can any one detere me from buying a PS3/Blueray player?
any comments on either formats would be great.
cheers,
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I WOUDN'T BUY EITHER! as there is no clear winner either way (and I work in the video industry), stick with dvd and downloads for now... I wouldnt touch a ps3 for games (they all suck) and it looks like the xbox 360 gets a blue ray next year anyways (it already has a hddvd player for 200 bucks).
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17-12-2007, 03:40 PM
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im still leaning towards ps3's blueray as its a 2 in one job and have heard good things. i can udnerstand the HD DVD side as the pornography market is going that way
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17-12-2007, 03:52 PM
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In the last thread on this forum on this topic, I believe it was resolved that the only reason HD-DVD was still around was because Microsoft was pushing a known loser in the hope that both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will tumble in the face of internet downloads...
The only thing Microsoft seems to ignore here is that you can't store a stream, but you can store a disc. And Vista is proof of the lengths Microsoft will go to to prevent you from saving a stream (or copying content, etc).
If HD-DVD wins, I for one will be ripping every HD-DVD I find to Blu-Ray. Heck, I can rip TWO HD-DVDs to every ONE Blu-Ray disc (last I heard) so that's twice the content in half the space! The only reason I would not go through with this is if the streams are storable and if Microsoft pimps my internet connection so I can get these things in real-time. Otherwise Microsoft can go _ _ _ _ my _ _ _ _ _ (think of Cartman in South Park).
My name here might be "iPirate" but I'm actually a hypocrite. I really hope Blu-Ray wins so I don't have to stop hypocrising.
Edit: It wouldn't surprise me if in the future, in your living room is the Blu-Ray player and in the bedroom is the HD-DVD player  
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17-12-2007, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iPirate
In the last thread on this forum on this topic, I believe it was resolved that the only reason HD-DVD was still around was because Microsoft was pushing a known loser in the hope that both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will tumble in the face of internet downloads...
The only thing Microsoft seems to ignore here is that you can't store a stream, but you can store a disc. And Vista is proof of the lengths Microsoft will go to to prevent you from saving a stream (or copying content, etc).
If HD-DVD wins, I for one will be ripping every HD-DVD I find to Blu-Ray. Heck, I can rip TWO HD-DVDs to every ONE Blu-Ray disc (last I heard) so that's twice the content in half the space! The only reason I would not go through with this is if the streams are storable and if Microsoft pimps my internet connection so I can get these things in real-time. Otherwise Microsoft can go _ _ _ _ my _ _ _ _ _ (think of Cartman in South Park).
My name here might be "iPirate" but I'm actually a hypocrite. I really hope Blu-Ray wins so I don't have to stop hypocrising.
Edit: It wouldn't surprise me if in the future, in your living room is the Blu-Ray player and in the bedroom is the HD-DVD player  
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you forget one thing there is very strong talk that multilayer hd dvd is on the way that will store more than blueray, therefore making the choice even more complicated.
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17-12-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iPirate
In the last thread on this forum on this topic, I believe it was resolved that the only reason HD-DVD was still around was because Microsoft was pushing a known loser in the hope that both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will tumble in the face of internet downloads...
The only thing Microsoft seems to ignore here is that you can't store a stream, but you can store a disc. And Vista is proof of the lengths Microsoft will go to to prevent you from saving a stream (or copying content, etc).
If HD-DVD wins, I for one will be ripping every HD-DVD I find to Blu-Ray. Heck, I can rip TWO HD-DVDs to every ONE Blu-Ray disc (last I heard) so that's twice the content in half the space! The only reason I would not go through with this is if the streams are storable and if Microsoft pimps my internet connection so I can get these things in real-time. Otherwise Microsoft can go _ _ _ _ my _ _ _ _ _ (think of Cartman in South Park).
My name here might be "iPirate" but I'm actually a hypocrite. I really hope Blu-Ray wins so I don't have to stop hypocrising.
Edit: It wouldn't surprise me if in the future, in your living room is the Blu-Ray player and in the bedroom is the HD-DVD player  
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lest not forget sony root kit crap and every attempt sony has made to lock out blue ray, even making it call home to check discs are valid and if not shutting down your player you tv and stereo and anything else it can talk to . If you want to talk incestuous protection sony is it!
HD DVD has almost nothing to do with Microsoft.
Another fact is triple layer HD DVD's are now a reality giving you a greater capacity than blue ray, SO dont think blue ray wins that, the real issue is the cost of manufacture of HD DVDs are far cheaper than blue ray.. why? HD DVD uses the same production infrastructure as normal DVD's where as Blue ray is only made in 2 factories in the world.. guess who owns them??? Sony of course! and charge for it, this is why blue ray costs far more to produce than HD DVD, also if you are a producer of content SONY takes a cut of each disc... HD DVD not so.....
in any case you can store movies ON DOWNLOAD... its called a hard drive, a memory stick... who said anything about streaming?
STILL I wouldn't put money on any of them, its far too early.. and if you buy blue ray or HD DVD you bought too early and will pay the price! your choice!

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17-12-2007, 04:30 PM
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you forget one thing there is very strong talk that multilayer hd dvd is on the way that will store more than blueray, therefore making the choice even more complicated.
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SONY have sued any one trying to do so, as you need their permission to do so, and in their EXCLUSIVE LICENSEE to you, you are not allowed to make a hybrid player.... dont you love sony... not!
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17-12-2007, 05:48 PM
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I think I want HD DVD to win. Not sure it will though.
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