|
|

21-12-2007, 06:25 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Video Professional, Mostly Melbourne, but work all over Australia
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squozen
Right, and Telstra's going to give up their price gouging on that broadband are they?
|
yes they will http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15859/127/
lets come back and 2010 and see.... I had people in the early 1990's who worked on mainframes tell me no home computer will have a hard drive bigger than 100 GB'S .. yea right.. I have heard all the claims before.. even that telephones couldn't support anything above 14.4kb modems... Hmmm... its all been wrong... and processor speeds, download speeds and ram have all exceed anyones predictions, I am sure the 8 processing core 4Ghz macbook with 32Gb's of ram and a 2 TB hard drive in a laptop thats 2 grand seems along way off now, but id say it will be fair dinkum by 2010.
So if we are reaching 170Gb's wirelessly how fast would be cable? 400GBs? 1TB? who knows... but we wont be moving shiny little discs around for video anymore I can say that much for certainty.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

21-12-2007, 06:39 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Mount gambier SA now cutting the nightly news.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Appleseed
Blu-ray is still a safer bet than HD-DVD - in the US Blu-ray has 70% of movie titles available. And in Oz it has 95% market share.
|
there are less than 3000 players sold in the whole of australia total so hardly conclusive.
take away ps3 sales are blueray doesnt look to crash hot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

21-12-2007, 06:57 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Video Professional, Mostly Melbourne, but work all over Australia
|
PS3 no longer a certified Blue Ray Player
as reported by wired it looks like Sony screws its own buyers again.
"The Blue Ray Spec keeps changing, and now just been revised to 1.3, that specs dictates a certain amount of onboard RAM, to meet the 1.3 Blue Ray spec. That RAM spec is now that above that of PS3's, so unless Sony upgrades the RAM in the PS3 , you could possibly have a Blue Ray Disc in the future that wont play on your PS3, thanks allot Sony!"
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

21-12-2007, 07:29 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpicard
as reported by wired it looks like Sony screws its own buyers again.
"The Blue Ray Spec keeps changing, and now just been revised to 1.3, that specs dictates a certain amount of onboard RAM, to meet the 1.3 Blue Ray spec. That RAM spec is now that above that of PS3's, so unless Sony upgrades the RAM in the PS3 , you could possibly have a Blue Ray Disc in the future that wont play on your PS3, thanks allot Sony!"
|
Link please. I'd like to read the source of that article before commenting on your post.
You are aware that the new triple-layer HD-DVD discs supposedly won't play in current players too, aren't you?
Last edited by JonoNZ; 21-12-2007 at 07:31 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

21-12-2007, 07:36 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Video Professional, Mostly Melbourne, but work all over Australia
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonoNZ
You are aware that the new triple-layer HD-DVD discs supposedly won't play in current players too, aren't you?
|
.....and people wonder why I say they have been duped if they bought into either format right now.... hmmmmm

|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

21-12-2007, 08:58 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Sydney, Australia
|
As far as I am aware, the BDA (Blu-ray Disc Association) is still sticking to the profile 1.0, 1.1 and 2.0 plan.
And as for triple-layer HD DVD's possibly not playing in existing players... how does anyone know outside of Toshiba yet?
This rumour that they wont work is pure speculation... no-one knows. There aren't even any plans to even release TL HD DVD's into the wild yet. Not only that, no-one knows if they are planned for data purposes only (PC burning, etc) or for movies.
I've got both formats, and I don't think I've been duped at all.
__________________
Mac Pro 2.66GHz, 8800GT, 8GB RAM / MacBook Air 1.8GHz, SSD / iPhone 3G 16GB / iPod nano 8GB / tv 40GB
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

21-12-2007, 09:41 AM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Sydney
|
I'm going to try a summation here.
What we have is two good, useable products. Nothing wrong with either of them essentially - and if it was only 1 product we were talking about we'd all being saying how marvelous and spiffing it was.
They are both great aren't they!?
But no one is holding a gun to the consumers head saying buy, buy, buy.
My standard old (what is it? just over 10 years now?) DVDs still tickle my fancy. They're so practical and cheap too.
My beef is with these companies trying to shove 2 new standards at us as if we actually need them. Cause you know what's happening don't you? With faster broadband speeds and better, more accurate codecs we're not going to have to worry about having either BR or HD-DVD. In a very short time we'll download incredibly high quality content direct to our equivalent Apple TV and watch it on whatever HD screen we prefer backed by our 7.1's!
The argument shouldn't be about which is better. The argument should be - are either necessary????
The only reason I'd have either is cause I'd be buying a game console - not as a movie option.
__________________
Just browsing thanks
...and in closing...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

24-12-2007, 07:09 PM
|
|
Resident Pirate
Group: Regulars
Location: Sydney Metropolitan
|
How about we all wait for Holo-Disc which will crap all over both parties?
That would make everybody happy. Especially if the Holo-Drive could fit inside... well... anything.
__________________
Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4, Still can't quicklook volume icons of greater than 128*128 when icon was pasted from picture.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

24-12-2007, 08:47 PM
|
|
Supreme Overload (TM)
Group: Forum Leaders
Location: Melbourne
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjuiz
I'm kinda hoping HD-DVD will win, Sony just seem way to smug about the whole thing. Plus I like that HD-DVD is region free! So we can buy movies from Amazon and avoid getting poorly packaged releases with fugly classification logos on the cover.
|
FWIW, I've been buying BRD's from the US for the past year and have yet to come across one that is actually region locked.
On the other hand, I continue to feel the pain of having to pass up Beautiful Katamari on the 360 because it was locked to DVD region 1. Just saying. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

24-12-2007, 09:08 PM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Australia, Sydney
|
I will be on the side lines for this format war, I believe both are just as good as each other.
I currently own a PS3 and have a few BR movies, I will also be buying a HD DVD player for the soul purpose that i like to try the new formats.
I still have a VHS and LaserDisc Player hooked up to my LCD TV and i use them both frequently. My 1996 Laserdisc player can (Depending on the Disc) produce the same image quality if not better then DVD's, so for older movies that i don't already own I prefer laserdisc. I'm a bit of an old skool user..
__________________
My Macs: MacBook Pro 17", Powerbook Ti 867Mhz, Powermac 5500 Black, iBook G3 900Mhz, Powermac MDD, Powermac 8600 250Mhz, Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Mac Mini, iMac G4 17" 1Ghz, eMac 1Ghz, eMac 800Mhz,
AppleCollector Sales Service/Sales/Support/Trade In's
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

26-12-2007, 05:51 PM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
|
I believe I mentioned in my post earlier on that the PS3 could not support the full BD-V specification as of the latest draft, due to its pitiful 256Mb RAM. 1Gb is required by a player to utilise all features.
__________________
If it is hidden, it is the flower - Zeami, Noh playwright
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

26-12-2007, 06:16 PM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Sydney, Australia
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkhum_Eramak
I believe I mentioned in my post earlier on that the PS3 could not support the full BD-V specification as of the latest draft, due to its pitiful 256Mb RAM. 1Gb is required by a player to utilise all features.
|
1GB local storage is required for BD-Live (Profile 2.0)... not RAM... that has nothing to do with it.
Seeing as the PS3 has at minimum a 40GB hard disk (and it's upgradeable)... there shouldn't be any problem.
__________________
Mac Pro 2.66GHz, 8800GT, 8GB RAM / MacBook Air 1.8GHz, SSD / iPhone 3G 16GB / iPod nano 8GB / tv 40GB
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

26-12-2007, 08:46 PM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Video Professional, Mostly Melbourne, but work all over Australia
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by [MREVO8]
1GB local storage is required for BD-Live (Profile 2.0)... not RAM... that has nothing to do with it.
Seeing as the PS3 has at minimum a 40GB hard disk (and it's upgradeable)... there shouldn't be any problem.
|
I sought the interpretation of that meaning internal storage (RAM) not hard drive storage, can you pull the exact wording to verify this claim.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

26-12-2007, 08:55 PM
|
|
Regular
Group: Users Awaiting Email Confirmation
Location: Not Here
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpicard
I sought the interpretation of that meaning internal storage (RAM) not hard drive storage, can you pull the exact wording to verify this claim.
|
He's not claiming anything, just offering an opinion.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

26-12-2007, 09:22 PM
|
|
Regular
Group: Regulars
Location: Speculate! Speculate!
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver
Apple is on the Blueray board.
HD-DVD does have the pornography market though, so it may still win.
|
LOL!
It's probably been said before, and will probably be said again many times, but broadband is going to kill physical media in the next few years. So neither will win, they're the big studios' last grasp at physical product sales and they won't last much longer than it takes to pay off the R&D.
It's only a matter of time before somebody comes up with a DRM system for download media that's fair to the users, the artists and the publishers, is relatively universal across formats and fairly priced. There are better brains being thrown at this one than at the space program at the moment, so it's only a matter of time. This will kill all physical media sales faster than VHS killed Beta (not that Beta died, it went to professional heaven and lasted another 25 years at least.)
__________________
I'm the Layer 8 solution. You are the Layer 8 problem. Shut up and listen.
The Rudd/Conroy Internet Censorship Plan is political censorship.
|
|
|
|
|
|