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06-12-2006, 09:00 PM
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Check out post number 4 in the topic "Disk Copy seems to be missing..."
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06-12-2006, 09:03 PM
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Widgeteer
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hahaha. New Windows convert?
I keep hearing "No way! It can't just be that simple" from my sister's husband (recent switcher).
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06-12-2006, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by marc
hahaha. New Windows convert?
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Not sure who you meant here...
Me? Heck no. I've used macs daily for 15 years and PCs daily for 10. I didn't need converting, I was a big fan the moment I saw those sweet green-on-black chars on the IIE's display, and in awe of the way the 5-inchers could make them dance and sing (sic).
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06-12-2006, 09:17 PM
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Widgeteer
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Nah, I meant Daltasaur.  |
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06-12-2006, 09:21 PM
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Group: Regulars
Location: Adelaide
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Originally Posted by ClockWork
Simplicity.
Also - it beats those 10 button bastards.
I actually don't mind which, whether it's a two clicker or a click and keyboard. the one thing I've never been able to control effectively is a track pad.
Track Pad = Tiny Wacom Tablet with a Pen the size of a full toilet roll.
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I'm fine with 2 button mice on desktops, but with the buttons on trackpads I always seem to press the wrong button.
I too find trackpads to be hard to use at times (especially in Photoshop  ). |
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06-12-2006, 09:35 PM
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Still stuck in 1984
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Originally Posted by rtc
I'm not convinced. Developers put stuff in context menus for the sake of productivity.
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If they do that, without putting the same function on a menu, then they are a BAD Mac developer. And there's plenty of them about.
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... whether cluttering up the main menu bar with repetition is desirable or undesirable
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Pfff, menu items can be dynamic, or as is usually more the case, an action can have its own dynamic sub-menu. Photoshop does this a lot.
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... whether the app is designed so it can be used without a mouse, i.e. entirely by keyboard and/or shortcuts.
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ANY program that does this is not a good Mac program, because the OS itself is heavily dependent on the mouse.
The Macintosh user interface is pointer driven and always has been, Windows is primarily keyboard-oriented and always has been. More people know how to point than they do how to type. If you plan on writing software for MacOS, you must make sure that your program can be driven only with a single button mouse.
Any programmer who cannot see that last point as valid, should not be allowed anywhere near a Mac.
Not a Mac app, it's for anal-retentive geeks and Aspergers sufferers only 
Brains
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Last edited by Brains; 06-12-2006 at 09:53 PM.
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06-12-2006, 09:55 PM
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Brains, I agree wholehartedly. I was pointing out that developers exist who, sadly, don't subscribe to the same fundamental standards as you and I do.
On another note... Aspergers? Que?
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06-12-2006, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spilla
I too find trackpads to be hard to use at times
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Trackpads - ugh! Yech! I don't know how some folk can live without plugging in an external mouse immediately. Yet I see those people who can actually use a laptop with just the trackpad, no external mouse? Either they have WAAAY more patience than me, or way more dexterity. |
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06-12-2006, 10:11 PM
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The Fail Whale
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Originally Posted by Brains
it's for anal-retentive geeks and Aspergers sufferers only |
hilarious.
i should mention a friend of mines child was diagnosed with aspergers, and the doctor told the upset mother, "there is no reason to be upset, some very successful people show signs of aspergers. Infact, i often think Bill Gates has aspergers"
oh, and rtc, i hate using a mouse. after five years on a lappy i feel completely unco without a trackpad.
Last edited by fulltimecasual; 06-12-2006 at 10:14 PM.
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06-12-2006, 10:17 PM
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NSLog(@"%@", [self customTitle]);
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Originally Posted by Brains
Not a Mac app, it's for anal-retentive geeks and Aspergers sufferers only
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1. You used to be on a one-man-mission to eradicate Terminal.app, right? What the hell are you doing talking about Mac programming? 
2. Much of the technology you are using today has been invented, designed and developed by people with aspergers. Seriously. Try walking into an electrical engineering lecture and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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06-12-2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iboy
oh, and rtc, i hate using a mouse. after five years on a lappy i feel completely unco without a trackpad.
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You must be one of those clever, dextrous people I was on about. Sadly I do not share your talent... Except when I'm a mile high and have large humans either side of me.
Aspergers.... well, I just learned something new today. I will resist the temptations to rebut a KDX quip with a MacTalk parallel, not least for fear of self-degradation... |
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06-12-2006, 10:39 PM
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I love Apple trackpads! I always hated trackpads (I had 2 PC laptops with trackpads before I switched back in 2005) until I got my iBook. Now that the Apple trackpads have two finger right-click (how topical) as well as two finger scroll, my trackpad is more useful then a mouse.
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"Algorithms that forget their history are doomed to repeat it" - Artificial Intelligence, A Modern Approach (Russel & Norvig)
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06-12-2006, 10:42 PM
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The Fail Whale
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You must be one of those clever, dextrous people I was on about. Sadly I do not share your talent... Except when I'm a mile high and have large humans either side of me.
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i sure aint dextrous, although i do love dexter (god i'm pathetic). is just like anything else, get used to doing something one way, and its so hard to use something else. its like quicksilver, i cant imagine not having it installed on a machine, but when i try to convince others to use it they think its pointless... |
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31-12-2006, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brains
If they do that, without putting the same function on a menu, then they are a BAD Mac developer. And there's plenty of them about.
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Such as Traktor for example. Sure it's got customisable KB shortcuts for everything, and sure you wouldn't want to use menus all the time when mixing, but it's ALL in context menus!!! |
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31-12-2006, 01:13 PM
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Still stuck in 1984
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Almost all the Native Instruments stuff originates on the Windows side of things ... I admire NI for ensuring as many of their products as possible are multiplatform, but the origins are painfully obvious
BTW: Hercules DJ Console. Awesome Traktor accessory ... set it up right and you barely have to touch mouse or keyboard at all.
B.
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Wi-fi is a health risk, please use sparingly and with caution. |
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