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Old 24-08-2006, 05:33 PM
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Hi guys.

I am completing an Advanced Diploma of Multimedia at Greensborough NMIT. Next year I want to continue into a University that is funded (not a private university, I don't have money for that).

I have been looking at Swinbourne and the courses they offer. Some of the multimedia courses look great at Hawthorn and Prarahn. I don't know if they focus on macs or pcs, and am waiting response from them at this present time.

My question is this. Where can I study to gain very high skillful knowledge in the programs like:

>Maya
>Final Cut Pro
>DVD Studio Pro
>Motion

and maybe

Logic

and the rest

I don't want to work on pcs because at home I have a mac and this wil cause problems.

Where do all the experts learn, I know many of them would learn by themselves but there has to be some proper courses at bachelor level focusing on these programs.

I also would like the course to be recognized.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is a big problem for me since the VTAC is closing in a month or so.

Thanks guys.
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Old 24-08-2006, 07:04 PM
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Maybe CSU, Wagga Wagga. I know someone doing multimedia there and he said that they are being taught on Macs. I don't know what specific programmes are being used, sorry.

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Old 24-08-2006, 08:22 PM
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The BA TV degree out of Wagga Wagga (which I am a graduate of) does a lot of work in Final Cut Pro etc - you can do minor subjects in television production, whilst completing a BA degree in multimedia (they have a new degree starting next year you might be interested in) - they use PC's, at the moment AMD Dual core's and run Maya mainly - which is on both platforms.

Info on the new course:

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Charles Sturt University is proud to announce Australia’s only Bachelor degree dedicated to the art of animation and visual effects. This exciting new course is devoted to students passionate about creating memorable visuals and fulfilling their desire to bring their imagination to life. Founded upon traditional arts principles, this new degree provides a unique collaborative framework for students to explore their creative visual talents through diverse media and evolving industries with particular emphasis towards the digital realm. Not only do students gain a well-rounded arts education, but the course also encourages specialisation to increase employment prospects in increasingly competitive fields. Featuring cross-discipline opportunities, current industry standard software, knowledgeable lecturers, latest learning tools, exhibitions/festivals, and a welcoming team environment founded upon creative arts practice, the course will motivate students to achieve their very best with a professional portfolio, demo reel and resume.

Major studies integrate 3D, animation, digital video/audio, conceptual development, digital compositing, special effects, multimedia authoring/design, and production projects. Minor studies can incorporate acting, design for theatre and television, graphic design, jewellery, photography or television production. Student’s career options include 3D graphics, animation, motion design, digital compositing, visual effects, computer games, multimedia authoring and design, professional art practice, film/television production, scientific visualisation, advertising and interactive media. For more information visit www.csu.edu.au/svpa or call 1800 334 733.[/b]
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Old 24-08-2006, 08:29 PM
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ohh (sorry to hijack) a chalkie!! (I assume they still use that slang down there)
to add something constructive the thread.. what about open learning?

I have no idea whether they do or not..
but Im just making suggestions.
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Old 24-08-2006, 08:42 PM
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Why?

Aren't you going to uni to learn techniques and how to further improve your multimedia skills?

Nobody cares what type of typewriter a novelist uses, it's all about their literary technique.

Just a thought...

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Old 24-08-2006, 10:07 PM
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So I didn't mention, but I live in Melbourne. They don't have these course you guys mentioned in Melbourne true.

Hawthorn & Prarahn are like a 30 min drive so I don't want anything too too far.

So can anyone help me seriously. No one learnt macs at school?

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Why?

Aren't you going to uni to learn techniques and how to further improve your multimedia skills?

Nobody cares what type of typewriter a novelist uses, it's all about their literary technique.

Just a thought...
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I don't exactly know what you mean?

do you mean why do I want to use a mac instead of a pc, no one cares what you use, unless you complete it?

I want to use mac programs, which aren't on pc.


Man, if apple is leading in video editing, graphic design and the like, wouldn't they have proper colleges which teach the material.

I'm going to the apple.com.au website and asking the actual staff!
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Old 24-08-2006, 11:17 PM
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Too bad you have a mac there, I would have suggested 3D Studio Max as the only one to learn what your after. If you know that you can pretty much adjust to any other program out there.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ltpowda @ Aug 24 2006, 11:07 PM) [snapback]208105[/snapback]</div>
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do you mean why do I want to use a mac instead of a pc, no one cares what you use, unless you complete it?

I want to use mac programs, which aren't on pc.
Man, if apple is leading in video editing, graphic design and the like, wouldn't they have proper colleges which teach the material.

I'm going to the apple.com.au website and asking the actual staff!
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My point was that it's not which programs you use to create your final results that matter, it's the final results themselves and the techniques involved.

I know rmit has quite a few mac labs now, so I am guessing their multimedia design courses are using them. I know the software engineering and computer science departments aren't using them just yet.
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Old 25-08-2006, 08:16 AM
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Maybe ring swinbourne and ask for the multimedia dept then see what their response is ..

I still dont get why macs are only good for multimedia design according to high level IT people and some parents... Why would a computer only for multimedia design have unix terminal on them.
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Old 25-08-2006, 08:20 AM
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If you are interested in learning these "applications" do it at home - a uni will teach you how to do a task, but not a particular program, as in 5 years time, who is to say an Apple solution will be what the industry is using, or even if you'll be doing work on Macs.

Sure, go to the course to learn the framework and a broader sense of the topic - but when it comes to being a pro with a specific application, that falls onto your shoulders.
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Old 25-08-2006, 08:38 AM
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'IT' people and others, who don't know any better, say this. it's like calling an isp with a Mac internet problem. their notes seem to date back to OS8 or 9, .... :P

anyway, .. in my opinion, you will do well to do a tv production qualification, .. .not specifically on PC, .. why? because your method and foundation is the same and in the end, you will be multi-skilled(PC/Mac). it won't be a mission for you to learn Apple Final Cut/Motion etc afterwards and you will slip easily into it with the foundation you have built on your course.
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videography will give you a great insight into your final cutting stage. i would say get the Mac suite
and learn alongside your course at home. a relevant Mac only qualification wont matter should you come out of uni with a degree quilification. you may build up a portfolio on your Mac during your course and show off your skills when you get to the point of job application.
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Old 25-08-2006, 09:13 AM
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If you are interested in learning these "applications" do it at home - a uni will teach you how to do a task, but not a particular program, as in 5 years time, who is to say an Apple solution will be what the industry is using, or even if you'll be doing work on Macs.
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Old 25-08-2006, 10:35 AM
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ok.

It's just that I have a mac at home and no pc, and it's hard at school atm because I have to do all "non mac" programs like 3d studio max at school.

Ok, I will give swinburne a call.

Which uni focus' more on 3d and video editing (can they be judged), like swinburne, deakin, rmit.

I'm looking towards swinburne
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Old 25-08-2006, 12:42 PM
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I know you mentioned you don't have the cash for a private institute but...

I do a bit of lecturing (FCP, After effects etc) at SAE institute melbourne, they have a digital film class that runs for 12 months. You will learn Final Cut Pro quite comprehensively, also will have quite a good understanding of after effects. There is a 4 week module of Maya. But alot of it is also hands on with cameras and lights.

Im an advanced user of FCP, Shake, After Effects. If you want to learn applications inside out, then don't bother going to a UNI or college, learn it yourself. Thats what I did. There are thousands of great tutorials online.
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yeah, i know what you mean.

I wanted to go to SAE institute, i have always kept my eyes on this, I know it's a great school. But as you know, it's expensive.

Thanks



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