[pengu]

Originally Posted by grfxninja

At the risk of sounding like an ignorant moron, wtf is this "Cufon" you are all on about??

Some history:

For a long time, the only way to have text on a page in the specific font you wanted (if it wasn't Arial/Verdana/Times/Courier) was to use an image. This is pretty much a Bad Thing ™.

Then some people came up with the idea of using Flash (which can embed fonts) with JavaScript, to dynamically replace certain text (generally headings) with a flash object that renders the original text in the font you desire. However it relies on flash AND javascript, and I believe using flash for text is yet anothr Bad Thing ™

Now, someone has come up with a way to render text in your desired font using VRML/Canvas - Cufon. Neither is something that has to be "turned on" by the browser (nor can they be turned off AFAIK) and the support for these is pretty good with modern browsers. It also means you don't get Safari going off it's tits with 98% CPU because the flash plugin is a piece of shit.

[Lutze]

Originally Posted by pengu

Some history:

For a long time, the only way to have text on a page in the specific font you wanted (if it wasn't Arial/Verdana/Times/Courier) was to use an image. This is pretty much a Bad Thing ™.

Then some people came up with the idea of using Flash (which can embed fonts) with JavaScript, to dynamically replace certain text (generally headings) with a flash object that renders the original text in the font you desire. However it relies on flash AND javascript, and I believe using flash for text is yet anothr Bad Thing ™

Now, someone has come up with a way to render text in your desired font using VRML/Canvas - Cufon. Neither is something that has to be "turned on" by the browser (nor can they be turned off AFAIK) and the support for these is pretty good with modern browsers. It also means you don't get Safari going off it's tits with 98% CPU because the flash plugin is a piece of shit.

Ahhhh!! Then I'm impressed!

[prerecorded]

I'm sure I could find a lot more to say, but I wanted to add my 2 cents' worth.

The whole "hello!" thing on designers' websites is totally played out. I know you want friendly, but it' kinda comes out cheesy. Also, you do need to refer to yourself consistently. Use your real name.

[banjo]

Originally Posted by Lutze

Ahhhh!! Then I'm impressed!

Beware. At this point (and possibly never) Cufon does not support selecting and copying text. It looks like you can select text, but what you're actually selecting are Canvas instances. This would be a deal-breaker for me.

Read this for an introduction.

[Lutze]

Originally Posted by banjo

Beware. At this point (and possibly never) Cufon does not support selecting and copying text. It looks like you can select text, but what you're actually selecting are Canvas instances. This would be a deal-breaker for me.

Read this for an introduction.

That's an interesting article - but as a designer (like the OP) you don't really want people to be wholesale cut & pasting. So it's certainly got a use - even if that is unintended!

[pengu]

Originally Posted by Lutze

That's an interesting article - but as a designer (like the OP) you don't really want people to be wholesale cut & pasting. So it's certainly got a use - even if that is unintended!

also, copy and paste works fine for me on this site (graphicdznr) in Safari 4.

I suspect its actually copying the text in the spans identified by the "cufon-alt" class.

[kingsdesign]

Originally Posted by grfxninja

At the risk of sounding like an ignorant moron, wtf is this "Cufon" you are all on about??

About - cufon - GitHub

It is a great concept but I normally use sIFR for font replacement.
Everyone there own preference I guess.

[grfxninja]

Thanks for the info re Cufon guys. Very interesting indeed

[St Cornelius]

Its conventional but thats not a bad thing.