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Old 03-07-2007, 12:49 PM
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Refurbished Macs - Bargain or Hell in Shiny White Box?

Refurbished Macs - Bargain or Hell in Shiny White Box?

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Psstt, there's a secret for getting cheap Macs. Apple has had up on their website for a while now, refurbished computers that are either the same specification, or slightly less than the machines currently on offer, but with great discounts. A Mac Pro for example, is only $3350, where as new, it is $4000 - for the exact same machine.

Apple also offers these to resellers. What happens is that all the eligible resellers enter an online auction site run by Apple, who list all the stock they have to sell with a reserve price. All the resellers bid on the items in a blind auction and the shop that bids the most for it wins. The stock is then shipped out to them and the reseller sells it with their margin on top.

All the machines marked as refurbished come from Apple's selection of DOA computers. A DOA computer is one that was returned to Apple by a customer who had issues with the machine within the first 14 days from it's purchase. The Mac may have failed to boot up, could have had no sound, could have kernel panicked every 10 minutes, it's USB ports could have failed, the list goes on. If there's anything wrong with a Mac within 14 days, the customer can get a new one, no questions asked. This collection of returned Macs make up the bulk of refurbished stock. Sometimes they are ex-demo machines from resellers, as well as superseded models.

Those computers do end up somewhere, as just throwing them in the bin would be a waste. Someone at Apple takes a look at the computer, checks out what is wrong with it, fixes it, tests it and gets it ready to sell again via the refurb system.

A full 12 month warranty is applied to these refurbished Macs, but they do not come with any phone support (a brand new Mac has 90 days phone support). You can however purchase AppleCare, and receive an extra 2 years warranty (bumping it up to 3 years total) and a full compliment of phone support (3 years in total from purchase date). You don't need to purchase the AppleCare at the time of purchase however, although this used to be the case.

iPods are also included in this, and there are some serious bargains to be had. $44 for an iPod Shuffle (512mb, first generation), 20GB click-wheel iPods for $149, 30gb iPod Video for $279 - very cheap stuff! The same stuff as the Macs applies to iPods. They're ex-faulty units Apple has repaired and resold. A 1 year warranty is also included (as well as the option to get AppleCare for your iPod to bump it up to 2 years warranty).

In my experience, I haven't seen many problems with refurbished machines, as the main problem with them has been rectified by Apple and tested by a human, so chances are it will be working out of the box with little surprises. Sometimes they are not in perfect cosmetic condition, as they have been handled by a few people (the person who bought the machine in the first place, and a couple of techs who fixed it), but most of the time, they look just like new.

If you're after a Mac or an iPod on the cheap, but good as new, take a look at the refurbished products - whatever you may think of buying a resurrected iPod or Mac, you can't deny the value for money.

Where to Shop for Refurb Gear: Frequency, Computers Now, NextByte, Official Apple Online Store (that's all I know of - post in the comments if you know of any more!)

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Old 03-07-2007, 12:51 PM
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they sell second hand but im not sure they sell apple refurbs.
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Iv had some bad luck with referbs but in the end they were still value for money - bought them when next byte inc apple care
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Edu discounts don't apply to refurb stuff, do they?

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Edu discounts don't apply to refurb stuff, do they?

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Refurbished Macs rock the casbah. At the end of last year I managed to score a 24" iMac with 2GB RAM and 256MB VRAM for $2399. It was absolutely perfect and the same as I would have got if I had paid $3463 for the same spec iMac at Apple online store. Hot damn.
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No problems at all (knock on wood) with my refurb iMac.
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Typo: 'The Mac mail have failed to boot up'

Also, can you do a 14 day return for DOA of a refurb?
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Buying refurbished has been a positive experience, though I would probably always combine it with extended warranty. The worldwide warranty is great - my PB developed a problem with its fan and got fixed in 4 days whilst I was in London.
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I bought a 1.83ghz core duo MBP on re-furb not long after Apple bumped the minimum spec to 2.0ghz. Picked up pretty much a perfect machine for $2400 and never had a problem with it. At the time they had about 20 of the things to sell so I think I just got one of the remaining 1.8's that Apple wanted to get rid of rather than a machine that was faulty and was returned (but you never know).

I also bought a re-furb 4gb iPod mini for $119....works wonderfully. Unlike the MBP above, this one came in a generic cardboard box but who cares?

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Typo: 'The Mac mail have failed to boot up'

Also, can you do a 14 day return for DOA of a refurb?
I couldn't find out any info on DOA for refurbs. I am going to assume that you can, because the warranty is very similar to a new machine. It may be a shorter period instead of 14 days, I'm not sure.

Maybe someone who works for an Apple reseller could fill us in on that?
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I bought a 2G Mini for $119, Great purchase..that 20Gig 4G iPod is looking like a pretty good buy right now too .
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I couldn't find out any info on DOA for refurbs. I am going to assume that you can, because the warranty is very similar to a new machine. It may be a shorter period instead of 14 days, I'm not sure.

Maybe someone who works for an Apple reseller could fill us in on that?
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NO DOA on refurb/Firesale - they get fixed via a service centre -

But reality is - when we had our May/June Firesale (add us to the list pls Mr Manager), if we had more than one of an item and it was DOA, then we swapped etc, but as per your comment we don't get a huge amount of DOA with Firesale it is not an issue , saying that we had 3 DOA out of 40 in the last batch - They got fixed and resold - No issues!

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Refurbs are definitely worth looking for.

I've been aware of Refurbs for a couple of years, but up until the last year or so, I always found fairly slim pickings on the lists.

Possibly I chose the wrong times to look, or failures/returns/customers have increased making the reburb lists a much better place for bargains than it used to be.
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