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Old 06-06-2008, 02:42 PM
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The photo file is bogus, containing EXIF and XML metadata that states:

1.25pm

And the Gizmodo article was posted:

1.17pm.

So yeah, I miscalculated a minute: 1.25 minus 1.17 is 8 minutes.

So, even if this thread started 11.23am, how is the file from the future? It's been manipulated, probably at least twice.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:43 PM
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Hmm, considering this is an Australian story, it was posted at 11:30AM (yes AM), and MacTalk would have had to have received the news before then. I would assume they would have got this parcel either yesterday or first thing this morning. Certainly not a late afternoon/evening boozy prank.
Yup, received yesterday, news story written last night, posted this morning

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Hey guys. I'm surprised no one has come up with this logical deduction.

If a display model has been sent to an Apple reseller, this may indicate that the iPhone will be available to all resellers, and not exclusive to telcos. This would then suggest that there may be an unlocked version of the iPhone available.
Umm...second paragraph of the main story and also the link in the third paragraph perhaps?
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:46 PM
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:46 PM
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...and a hundred other times before this photo came out.
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The photo file is bogus, containing EXIF and XML metadata that states:

1.25pm

And the Gizmodo article was posted:

1.17pm.

So yeah, I miscalculated a minute: 1.25 minus 1.17 is 8 minutes.

So, even if this thread started 11.23am, how is the file from the future? It's been manipulated, probably at least twice.
From the EXIF data:

Date Time Digitized: 2008:06:05 14:58:07
Date Time Original: 2008:06:05 14:58:07

I'm trying to find another tool that might pull more info out than Preview, but so far, you're still wrong. Image was taken yesterday.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:47 PM
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I'm going to go out here on a limb, against popular opinion and say this is just a hoax or a joke, why is the sticker over the stamp like someone earlier stated? Also, why would Apple send just one unit, and on Friday, when they could send it on Monday. I just don't believe Apple would send something like this.

I bet they will open it and find something stupid in there like promo material or a service part like a hard drive.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:48 PM
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The photo file is bogus, containing EXIF and XML metadata that states:

1.25pm

And the Gizmodo article was posted:

1.17pm.

So yeah, I miscalculated a minute: 1.25 minus 1.17 is 8 minutes.

So, even if this thread started 11.23am, how is the file from the future? It's been manipulated, probably at least twice.
Clock was wrong on the machine it was edited on? :P
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:51 PM
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I bet they will open it and find something stupid in there like promo material or a service part like a hard drive.
Why would a service part not be allowed to be opened until the 10th?
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:51 PM
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I'm going to go out here on a limb, against popular opinion and say this is just a hoax or a joke, why is the sticker over the stamp like someone earlier stated? Also, why would Apple send just one unit, and on Friday, when they could send it on Monday. I just don't believe Apple would send something like this.

I bet they will open it and find something stupid in there like promo material or a service part like a hard drive.
Stamp is preliminary checking and would've been part of the original mass shipment, then seperate labels...

Public Holiday Monday...

Sheesh!
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:52 PM
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I'm going to go out here on a limb, against popular opinion and say this is just a hoax or a joke, why is the sticker over the stamp like someone earlier stated? Also, why would Apple send just one unit, and on Friday, when they could send it on Monday. I just don't believe Apple would send something like this.
First the stamp on the box is from the company that made the box probably and the address label was stuck on after and second it could not arrive on monday as it is a public holiday and then it would not get there till tuesday which is to late.
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Code:
    346B <0xe1  APP1>
 	[               Identifier]<......> = [    ASCII] "Exif\00".
 	[               Endianness]<......> = [    UNDEF] 'MM'
 	[                Signature]<......> = [    SHORT]  42
 	[                     IFD0]<......> = [REFERENCE]  --> 0x8d9ec4
 	 	********** APP1 --> IFD0 ********** ( 9 records)
 	 	[                     Make]<0x010f> = [    ASCII] "Apple".
 	 	[                    Model]<0x0110> = [    ASCII] "iPhone".
 	 	[              Orientation]<0x0112> = [    SHORT]  1
 	 	[              XResolution]<0x011a> = [ RATIONAL]  72/1
 	 	[              YResolution]<0x011b> = [ RATIONAL]  72/1
 	 	[           ResolutionUnit]<0x0128> = [    SHORT]  2
 	 	[                 Software]<0x0131> = [    ASCII] "Pixelmator 1.1.4".
 	 	[                 DateTime]<0x0132> = [    ASCII] "2008-06-06 11:10:14 +1000".
 	 	[                   SubIFD]<......> = [REFERENCE]  --> 0x8da4d0
 	 	 	********** APP1 --> IFD0 --> SubIFD ********** ( 7 records)
 	 	 	[                  FNumber]<0x829d> = [ RATIONAL]  14/5
 	 	 	[         DateTimeOriginal]<0x9003> = [    ASCII] "2008:06:05 14:58:07".
 	 	 	[        DateTimeDigitized]<0x9004> = [    ASCII] "2008:06:05 14:58:07".
 	 	 	[               ColorSpace]<0xa001> = [    SHORT]  1
 	 	 	[          PixelXDimension]<0xa002> = [     LONG]  772
 	 	 	[          PixelYDimension]<0xa003> = [     LONG]  600
 	 	 	[     ?? Unknown record ??]<0xa500> = [ RATIONAL]  11/5
... and you're still wrong. Pixelmator obviously futzed with the datetime, but the actual original timestamp is from yesterday.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:53 PM
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I'm going to go out here on a limb, against popular opinion and say this is just a hoax or a joke, why is the sticker over the stamp like someone earlier stated? Also, why would Apple send just one unit, and on Friday, when they could send it on Monday. I just don't believe Apple would send something like this.

I bet they will open it and find something stupid in there like promo material or a service part like a hard drive.
The stamp is a general box stamp. If you flip and twist the image you can clearly see it says "Packagaing (Shang Hai) GRC"
Box Certificate


It's too small for me to make out the inner text. This is not a post stamp at all.
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From the EXIF data:

Date Time Digitized: 2008:06:05 14:58:07
Date Time Original: 2008:06:05 14:58:07

I'm trying to find another tool that might pull more info out than Preview, but so far, you're still wrong. Image was taken yesterday.

Use a full EXIF extraction tool, or view the XMP data. Preview is not one of those.

"File date and time: 2008.06.06 13:25:22"

And

"Date and time of original data generation: 2008.06.05 14:58:07"

Image *was* taken yesterday. Image was *fiddled with* today. And not just to add black boxes most likely.


Click the image to open in full size.

:-)
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Image *was* taken yesterday. Image was *fiddled with* today. And not just to add black boxes most likely.

:-)
Yeah, the image was taken yesterday and we put it up today and covered up the address and barcode on the box to trace who it came from. What's wrong with that?
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:55 PM
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Use a full EXIF extraction tool, or view the XMP data. Preview is not one of those.

"File date and time: 2008.06.06 13:25:22"

And

"Date and time of original data generation: 2008.06.05 14:58:07"

Image *was* taken yesterday. Image was *fiddled with* today. And not just to add black boxes most likely.


Click the image to open in full size.

:-)
[ Software]<0x0131> = [ ASCII] "Pixelmator 1.1.4".
[ DateTime]<0x0132> = [ ASCII] "2008-06-06 11:10:14 +1000".

It was fiddled with 13 minutes before being posted to this site. Well, duh.

You're still wrong. And using Image::MetaData::JPEG to pull out ALL of the data from the file, I don't see ANYTHING that confirms your assertions.
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