Adobe 'complete' Macromedia take over
[img]http://www.appletalk.com.au/newsimg/macradobe.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' align='left' />So today Adobe 'completed' its takeover of Macromedia and announced a new line-up for the CS2 suites...

While there is a CS2 "Web Bundle" that includes the whole Studio 8 (Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Flash...) as well as Photoshop, the bigger concern is the layout of the the CS2 premium suite...

Basically, now that Adobe owns macromedia, the CS2 premium suite includes: Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat Pro, Version Cue, Adobe Bridge, Adobe Stock Photos & Flash 8. The CS2 premium suite also includes Adobe GoLive for web development, instead of the current industry leader: Dreamweaver.

Its a sad day indeed when Adobe assumes that GoLive would be prefered by anyone as an authoring tool for the web compared to Dreamweaver.

The worry for me is that Dreamweaver will not be given the resources to improve over time, while GoLive will... so that 2 years from now you'll be buying GoLive CS4, or a two year old Dreamweaver 8 (that will probably still be better that anything Adobe can make GoLive into).

Face it, GoLive is buggier than any program from one of the worlds biggest software companies has any right to be: by reports it crashes constantly when doing simple tasks, Macworld even gave it a TWO mouse rating this year... something I can't remember them doing too often.

I seriously hope that Adobe gets lots of people telling them to drop GoLive in favor of Dreamweaver... but today's announcement has me worried.

WTF!!!

Do you have a source on the new CS2 bundles?

http://store.adobe.com/store/products/mast...id=catWebBundle

see, CS2 + Studio 8 bundle!

DIE MACROMEDIA DIE!!! :P sorry, i dont hate macromedia, i'm just going with the flow...

Found em... http://www.adobe.com/products/bundles/main.html

And I see what you mean, don't seem to be very well thought out packages!

http://www.adobe.com/products/bundles/main.html

Ah... don't you hate when you're beaten to the reply!

and i just love when i beat a person to a reply. and i love it even more when i beat two people!!!

Hehehehe :lol:

I think it would have made more sense to bundle them like this:

Design (for everything print) :
Adobe Photoshop® CS2
Adobe Illustrator® CS2
Adobe InDesign® CS2
Adobe Acrobat® 7.0 Professional
Version Cue® CS2
Adobe Bridge
Adobe Stock Photos

Web (for everything web) :
Dreamweaver® 8
Flash Professional 8
Adobe Photoshop® CS2
Adobe Illustrator® CS2
Fireworks® 8
Contribute™ 3
FlashPaper™ 2
Adobe Acrobat® 7.0 Professional
Version Cue® CS2
Adobe Bridge
Adobe Stock Photos


You will notice I have dropped GoLive from the lineup :P

I think we can see from Adobe's bundling, they aren't gonna cut any of there own products in a hurry.

Is Freehand gone forever?

I've been bothered by dreamweaver for the past few releases... until the latest one. Dreamweaver 8 is great. It reminds me of the 'dreamweaver hey day' back in the version4 days. Adobe would be insane to kill this app just as it is getting back to a decent standard again.

My understanding is it got dropped from Studio8, but is still available seperately. For how long though, only Adobe knows!

Thoroughly agree... they've finally gotten the program to work well for those of us who code by hand. The old 'immediately close the tag' thing was a pain in the neck, the new 'close the open tag when you type
Combined with the CSS editing stuff and the WYSIWYG two panel design and it is a great prog.

I'd be surprised if Adobe absorbs any Macromedia product that they can justify their monopoly with.
It shows they're playing 'fair', and also keeps them more resistant to a competitor coming into the marketplace.
10 bucks says they won't kill off a thing(except maybe freehand)...

Interesting piece of history re: freehand.

In the late '80s, freehand was a product of Adlus, who also made PageMaker, and was the only real compeditor to Adobe Illustrator.

Adobe bought Aldus, and due to monopoly concerns, had to spin off freehand to another company, who then sold it/was aquired by MacroMedia (possibly via a couple of other companies),

And so, nearly 20 years later, here we are again, Adobe has control of both illustrator and Freehand (and therefore a virtual monopoly in this area) and this time it looks like it's stuck.

End history lesson.

If Adobe kills Dreamweaver, I will die! I use it so often, and my workflow would be seriously impeded if it vanished.

I haven't used GoLive since a fe versions ago, but I didn't like it then, so I doubt I'll like it now.

(prays)