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02-03-2008, 08:13 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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iCal (leopard) running extraordinarily slow
Hi Ya'll,
Well, I finally upgraded to Leopard a few days ago. Everything went relatively well, except for a nagging problem with iCal. It uses at least 100% of one core of my 2GHz core duo macbook (2Gb RAM) and runs painfully slow.
As well, it won't quit. I do a force quit, and it restarts itself with a new dock icon sliding in to replace the icon that I just force quit.
I thought that there might have been something wrong with my upgrade install. So I did an erase and install. All seemed to work well up until tonight.
Again, iCal is running dog slow.
I did find this:
Apple - Support - Discussions - Remove Leopard iCal and install iCal ...
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The issues I face are these:
(1) when switching from one day to the next, it can take up to 5-7 minutes before I actually see the event.
(2) when receiving a meeting notice, it takes about 40 seconds to 2 minutes to accept the notice
(3) when accepting meeting notices, the application automatically sends out an email to the person initiating the event acknowledging my acceptance or decline.
(4) I cannot change an event someone else establishes, only delete it.
(5) if I delete an event, it automatically tells the initiator that I have declined it
(6) --- this is the one that really got me, I deleted my calendar and wanted to re-add it from an import hoping to fix some of this. iCal initiated over 800 email notices to every meeting initiator crashing both Mail and iCal and corrupted my Mail db. I had to shut down my network connection to prevent them from going out and spamming everyone.
not to mention that there is NO ability to connect iCal to an Exchange server. No, I'm not an Exchange fan AT ALL but I have to have this ability to keep from having to manage two calendars. I'm doing that today and its nothing but a nightmare. I used to use Office 2004 but when they changed the file and folder structure of iCal, it broke Office for me. On top of that, Excel 2004 crashed every time I worked with large spreadsheets... but thats an entirely different story.
Here's the key for me... Sure, you can use Entourage and for many people thats just fine however, I'm not a fan of Microsoft's philosophy of one gargantuan file to contain all your email, calendar items and notes. Thats an accident waiting for a place to happen. The reviews of Office 2008 aren't wonderful either. iCal is a great tool but, I have all the issues I presently have and its not useful to me at this point. I am almost convinced that regressing to Tiger is the only resolution I have if I want to be productive in a Corporate environment with my Mac.
The positives... I really like Leopard and many of the features but my productivity has diminished significantly since the upgrade and I spend most of my time trying to figure out work-around's and patches than actually doing productive work.
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But no fix.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is there a database rebuilding option or equivalent somewhere?
thanks,
s
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03-03-2008, 04:13 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Anyone?
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03-03-2008, 08:45 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Ok, so I forgot the obvious -- trashing the preferences.
So far so good.
Nah, take that back. It lasts for about 5 minutes, then the processors start working hard.
Any ideas? Anyone?
I've repaired permissions. Trashed preferences. Reinstalled the system from scratch.
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03-03-2008, 11:45 PM
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Not so serious ;)
Group: Administrators
Location: Fukuoka, Japan (originally Canberra)
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Have you got anything set up with iSync? Sharing any calendars online?
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04-03-2008, 12:04 AM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Currawong
Have you got anything set up with iSync? Sharing any calendars online?
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Nope.
However, in iSync I had the "Enable syncing on this computer" option checked. I'll uncheck it now and see how it goes.
-- Thanks
Nah. Didn't make any difference.
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04-03-2008, 08:12 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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I downloaded this program:
http://jimmitchell.org/files/Yasu.dmg.gz
Ran it, restarted, and so far so good. Fingers crossed.
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12-03-2008, 10:27 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Nup. It has reverted back to hogging the processors which spins up the fans. Causing any kind of changes to iCal to take up to 30s before something happens.
Does anyone have any ideas about how to stop this?
s
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13-03-2008, 09:12 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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After deleting all of my calendars and iCal was still running slow as could be, I realised that the only calendar left was birthdays. I looked at the iCal preferences and the "Show Birthdays" was unchecked. So I checked it, and the Birthdays calendar in iCal changed colour; no problems since.
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23-03-2008, 09:20 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Ok. So the problem has come back. And I have narrowed it down to the birthday calendar. If I check the "show birthdays" calender or whatever it is. Maybe "subscribe to birthdays", eventually ical seems to go into an infinite loop, hog the processor, and take at least 3 attempts to finally make it quit for good. It quits, opens itself back up again, so I CMD+Q again, and it opens itself back up again, and I quit it again.
So, it seems like no one has a solution to this odd problem. So, I'll just leave it out there....
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29-04-2008, 03:59 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Hey,
Found a possible solution. So far so good.
I used this Dates to iCal | John Maisey
With a bonus, it adds the person's age and a default alarm 2 days prior.
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30-04-2008, 09:30 AM
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Regular
Group: Regulars
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You are John Maisey and I claim my $5 <smiley face>
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08-05-2008, 08:47 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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Ok, I think I have found the real culprit. Are you ready...
Growl!! Actually, I can't lay it all on Growl. It might also be Growlichat.app or Growlichathelper.app.
I have not done enough testing. Since I stopped loading these guys up at launch, my problems have stopped.
So there you go.
Last edited by scottgrot; 09-05-2008 at 11:53 PM.
Reason: I have **NOT** done enough testing. Not. I forgot the word "not."
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09-05-2008, 10:42 PM
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Member
Group: Registered Users
Location: Virginia
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What about folks who don't growl?
Scott, I hope your issue really *is* solved. I have many of the symptoms you did on one user's new MPB, and it was even worse on the MacBook she just turned in (2 GHz, 2GB Ram, etc.)
We're not growl users here, though, and even with the birthdays thing either way or the other, and all other apps stopped, we have an incredible latency on iCal's opening, and a good ten second delay after selecting another day (in week view, where she spends a good deal of time).
Activity monitor doesn't show inordinate RAM usage, processor or anything whacky locally, so I threw a couple tcpdumps up (one on her box, one on the gateway outa this network, and the proxy server) and, while there are a few too many ntp requests for my liking, nothing on networks looks too interesting.
Ever since we started looking at this issue, I've been asking as you did:
>> Is there a database rebuilding option or equivalent somewhere? <<
Any help is appreciated.
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09-05-2008, 11:20 PM
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MacTalk Podcaster
Group: Regulars
Location: Melbourne
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beevee,
Welcome to Australia!
Have you tried removing all iCal calenders, and then importing them one by one to see which of the calenders might have a weird entry?
This is what put me on to the birthdays calenders. Which made me think that it had something to do with addressbook.
When I went through addressbook and manually moved all the birthday entries to the notes field, the problem stopped.
This is all while I was still running growl.
So, I am assuming you have tried:
1 repairing permissions;
2 running onyx or some other scripting automation permission repairer thingy;
3 removing particular startup items;
4 reinstalling the OS from scratch;
5 testing ical in another user account;
I did all of these things.
The only thing I haven't done was call applecare, which was a suggestion from the maccast forums.
When iCal did run slow, it was using about 98% of the processor in Activity Monitor.
Are you on ichat?
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10-05-2008, 03:01 AM
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Member
Group: Registered Users
Location: Virginia
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Thanks for the prompt reply, Scott!
Thanks for the prompt reply, Scott.
I'm able to check off most of the things you list, and then I am reminded that this is a brand new outa the box MBP, with Leopard on it (the MB has Tiger). We did backup and restore iCal, drop subscriptions and such as that, and kill other processes (logged in via ssh as root).
I am unfamiliar with onyx (but I can fix that after work today). I'm on a client site right now working, so can't chat, but will try to get back to this board in a bit.
I have an account on her box, and will export/ import the calendars onsey-twosey.
Again, thanks for the prompt reply,
bv
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