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02-03-2007, 10:16 PM
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
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How fast does your computer Super Duper backup to an external USB 2 drive?
My MacBook PRO goes at about four to five MB per second average.
It's terribly slow, I'm thinking it's my cheap USB 2 IDE caddy.
Or is it because Super Duper is not registered?
Thoughts?
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02-03-2007, 10:18 PM
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Location: Sydney
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Maybe consider getting a firewire case...
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02-03-2007, 10:30 PM
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yeah usb2 is half as fast as firewire 400 in practice
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02-03-2007, 10:30 PM
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the benefits of super duper are bootable clones so you need a firewire drive to bring to fruition its full potential...
the transfer rate would reflect the drive rather than Super Duper...
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02-03-2007, 10:36 PM
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Also the thing with SuperDuper is that the first back up is slow, but subsequent ones are pretty fast as it only backs up changes since the last back up. 40 gigs takes about 12 minutes, firewire or usb (7200rpm external drive, 4500 rpm internal drive)
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02-03-2007, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Architect.mac
the transfer rate would reflect the drive rather than Super Duper...
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And the interface used to connect that drive to your system, as we clearly pointed out... USB2 or Firewire etc..
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03-03-2007, 06:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Also the thing with SuperDuper is that the first back up is slow, but subsequent ones are pretty fast as it only backs up changes since the last back up. 40 gigs takes about 12 minutes, firewire or usb (7200rpm external drive, 4500 rpm internal drive)
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Note that this feature is available only if you activate / buy the software
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03-03-2007, 08:59 AM
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Location: Melbourne
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Of course - Malakai has not paid the bucks. Splash the cash, mate.
BTW creating a perfect clone and booting from a FW drive works almost perfectly - the only (tiny) hiccup was when working in Dreamweaver on the FW enclosure, or rather when I transfered everything back to my PowerBook, Dreamweaver still wanted to look for files on the backup drive - it had changed where to look for files without my realising it. Still, its a minor issue.
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03-03-2007, 09:39 AM
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If you're using a Macbook Pro then you should be able to boot off a USB2 drive or a Firewire drive I believe, as of the intel changeover it's not firewire only anymore.
Having said this, I write my disk via firewire for the same reasons stated above, it just gets a better continuous throughput than USB2 in general.
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04-03-2007, 12:05 AM
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
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I did a full backup again last night and after it finished Super Duper reported a speed of 5.17mb per second and the whole backup took 3 hours and 5 minutes for 59gb of data.
Your right I should pony up the cash so I can do a Smart Update, and I will.
Booting off the USB 2 enclosure is not a problem, works like a charm on my MacBook PRO. Which is all I need so I can restore if needed like in the case of a HDD meltdown.
A Pleiades firewire enclosure is in my future I think.
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04-03-2007, 05:47 AM
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has anyone tried carbon copy cloner? it's free, actively developed and supported and does what sounds like the same job?
Last edited by joh; 04-03-2007 at 05:49 AM.
Reason: it's ten to seven and i am only now having my first coffee
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04-03-2007, 06:42 AM
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Carbon Copy Cloner
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has anyone tried carbon copy cloner? it's free, actively developed and supported and does what sounds like the same job? |
Yay! I'm not the only one. It hasnt done incremental backups for a while but development has continued and this is now fixed. |
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04-03-2007, 08:58 AM
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Group: Administrators
Location: Fukuoka, Japan (originally Canberra)
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SuperDuper's advantage is, as people said, it can update a clone after the first copy, that's why things seem very slow initially. It doesn't matter so much whether the drive is USB or FW.
Carbon Copy Cloner uses the Terminal "ditto" command to copy things - I gather currently, unless the issue has been fixed, that it requires a permissions repair (actually to fix some file links) after a clone, but clones work fine. An important thing both programs do is delete a couple of cache files on the clone that relate specifically to the hard disk being used to boot the machine that otherwise would stuff things up.
Edit: There seems to be a new beta of CCC that has new features, such as Backup.app-style options to drill down and select what gets backed-up etc.
Last edited by Currawong; 04-03-2007 at 09:03 AM.
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06-04-2007, 03:16 AM
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Coming back to SuperDuper, for back-ups I regularly clone my G5 and G3 hard drives to LaCie external drives using Disk Utility. This seems to work OK but I've often wondered whether I should use SuperDuper or CCC. Nearly everyone seems to swear by them - am I missing something here.
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06-04-2007, 09:40 AM
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Merry Pagan Sun God's day
Group: Administrators
Location: Fukuoka, Japan (originally Canberra)
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The proper working version of CCC is in beta, and it failed on me the other day, though I can't nail down exactly what happened, as it hit 90% then the system thought the drive had disappeared off the face of the earth.
I just ran SuperDuper using a Smart Backup to the drive (I upgraded my MBP to 160Gb) and that last 10% (of 67Gb of data) took about 30 minutes.
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