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Old 18-04-2008, 05:30 PM
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................No doubt IRL the case would look rubbish, and it's probably cheap, but I wouldn't mind finding the case on it's own to buy. Although I do have a G5 case mod planned (have so for some time, it sits there gathering dust ...)

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It looks like an Antec P182. The polished stainless steel version is also available for about $60 extra and is known as the Antec P182 SE. Limited to 5000 only.
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Old 18-04-2008, 05:43 PM
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Mmmm, Antec. Yummy. If i were to repackage this godsawful-looking G4 into something nice, it'd be an Antec case.
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Old 18-04-2008, 06:25 PM
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Personally, all it does is show the average level of intelligence of those involved with OSx86Project in any form -- low
They are cheap, or fond of their current hardware, but by no means of low intelligence. It has taken some knowledge and effort to remove Apple's hardware specific requirements and system lock. This "Psystar" in particular are otherwise of low intelligence as are most who try to cash in on it, but the folks who work on the key components themselves are actually quite intelligent.
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Old 18-04-2008, 07:31 PM
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Mmmm, Antec. Yummy. If i were to repackage this godsawful-looking G4 into something nice, it'd be an Antec case.
The all aluminum Silverstone TJ07 looks good too. The Sunbeam Acrylic Cube looks interesting and is cheaper, but not as practical. I can't decide between these two or the Antec P182 for my new PC.

MSY have stock of the Stainless P182.
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Psystar Open Computer in the wild

Exclusive Video: Psystar in the Wild

Gizmodo brings us the first video of a Psystar Open Computer in the wild. Reader Patrick (Whiskeyfrown) made a video showing the machine (including the connections in the back to the monitor to show that it’s legit).
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Old 29-04-2008, 08:22 AM
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You know its not illegal for them to sell these machines right? its only illegal once you install the software which i assume you there not preinstalling to avoid the obvious issues
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Old 29-04-2008, 08:24 AM
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You know its not illegal for them to sell these machines right? its only illegal once you install the software which i assume you there not preinstalling to avoid the obvious issues
Well they are selling the OS with the system... and at least at first they did say they would pre-install it. So they are at least breaking the EULA.
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"Software Update won't recognize it so you won't be able to patch" - Gizmodo
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"Software Update won't recognize it so you won't be able to patch" - Gizmodo

also a mention that you can't just reinstall the OS... not looking as good as first indicated
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Old 29-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Apple legal are just sitting back chillin, playing bejewelled on their iPods waiting for enough people to buy these things then BAM! 7 zillion $ lawsuit ...
This is probably the opportunity theyve been waiting for to freak out people involved in the os86 project and the hackintosh community in general.

Alternatively...

Apple could be doing this themselves but through an outsider with no paper trail back to them... just testing the waters as it where, see how many people will bite with the plan of perhaps releasing os x for PC if enough people are interested.
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Old 29-04-2008, 11:06 AM
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Here's my thoughts after watching the video:

Seeing the BIOS screen as the PC boots up ruins the whole experience. And not being able to install patches makes me think I'll give this whole OSX86 thing a big miss. I won't even mention the fan noise that comes from that thing.
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Here's my thoughts after watching the video:

Seeing the BIOS screen as the PC boots up ruins the whole experience. And not being able to install patches makes me think I'll give this whole OSX86 thing a big miss. I won't even mention the fan noise that comes from that thing.
That's what you get when you use shitty hardware to keep the price down.

Done properly, OSX86 can be jsut as satisfying as using a real Mac, including having access to patches and being able to re-install from DVD if needed. It's just that this guy hasn't been paying attention and hasn't done this properly.

However, as a lot of people in the OSX86 scene have found, the process of going out and selecting specific hardware and getting it all running smoothly actually ends up costing more in terms of time and money than getting a real Mac. The remainder of the community seems to be interested in getting OS X running on their existing hardware.

Apple 'could' go after this guy but it runs the risk of opening up any licensing holes in their EULA (or voiding the EULA altogether) and the result of that would let anyone create and sell an OS X capable computer (it would be then up to the user to purchase and install OS X). I can't see these psystar computers going anywhere...they are larger, noisier and have little advantage over a Mac mini.
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While I agree it's more investment in terms of time, even if you went out and replace every single component you still wouldn't spend as much money as on a real Mac. :P

Think of it like getting a classic car working. :iiaca:
It'll never be trouble-free, and when you first get it it's a pain in the butt. After a while you get around to fixing everything and you get better at putting out the spot fires when they come up. Eventually it's almost as good as the real thing, and you've learnt more about the internals in the process. It's not right for everyone but the enthusiast enjoys it.
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