Hi g5agogo, I'm running 10.3.9. As the machine had a fresh install, I had a heap of updates to download and one of the Safari updates may have fixed it - I've yet to try it. Thanks for the tip.

You're right, it does seem silly, but I guess it makes sense as I'm sure there's a process they must go through and stuff. Now I'm wondering if its worth it at all, since I can just buy a wireless mouse for 30 bucks later on. Plus, let it be known, I don't have much patience with this stuff. lol. I WANT IT NOW! *throws a tantrum*

Thanks, mwot.

Wow. First time I've heard that said. But to each their own.
I don't like the look of the old iMacs too much, but the new ones are stunning. Then again, every Apple product has that simplistic style that really attracts people. They obviously know what they're doing :P

Oh, and I also found that the new iMac looks so much better in person, rather than looking at photos/videos. It really impressed me.

Anyway, to the OP, I would sincerely ask if a Mac Pro is really necessary for you? The 2.8GHz with 4GB RAM is like lightning. It's only downside then would be the GPU, which may or may not be necessary for you. I view it's 'lack of expandability' more in a positive way, since it's so compact. If you're only wanting one or two hard drives, do you really need that extra space to put them in inside a tower? There's always external hard drives, one of two of those would suit me just fine, and much easier to pack up and travel with rather than a tower PLUS monitor. But, again, it may be different for you. When the time comes, and I need a bigger hard drive in my iMac, I can always get it swapped out, and then buy an external firewire case for the old hard drive to use externally.

As for RAM, 2GB is standard at the moment, 4GB will become standard in the next year or two. So it depends on how long you wish to keep the computer for before needing an upgrade, and how much you're willing to spend on upgrading in the future.

I've found a lot of people buy for the option of expandability and trying to future proof, but then end up buying a new complete system again 3 or so years down the track, rather than a complete upgrade (RAM, GPU, HDD, etc) because new systems always have something or other that you can't get simply by upgrading, and even the cost of upgrading can be high. We've become a throw-away society, especially the way technology is heading lately. So, I'd say to these people that unless you're completely sure that you will pour some money into an upgrade, you might as well just buy what gets the job done TODAY and worry about the future in the future.

Though, don't get me wrong, the iMac will be very capable for a good long while yet. Computers these days are speedy, and unless you're gaming or doing some serious video editing, a lot of that speediness doesn't even reach its full potential.

I must admit- i really don't like the new ones either.. they look like a shiny PC with a black border for what reason exactly

oh yes- to look like a farking iPhone

I have TEN hard drives in my current desktop plus two external 500GB drives. I'm actually going to be using a file server when I finally get my Mac Pro because I doubt I'll be satisfied with the six (with the upgrade kit) internal bays.

That's the other thing, I find myself replacing my computer every 12 - 18 months now. I'd love to buy a machine that would last three years - and hopefully the Mac Pro will do that for me.

LOL. Well, yes, there is that perspective, too. But another reason is that a black edge surrounding a screen makes the screen appear brighter than it really is. It's the same reason I chose the black Nintendo DS over the white one - just looks that much better. White borders around screens just don't look quite right, to my eyes.

Well I guess that clears up the iMac vs Mac Pro debate for you, then. :P Honestly, with a setup like that, I wouldn't have even considered the iMac at all.

UPDATE: Called Apple Support, but the senior tech wants to check one final thing- the logs. Can't do that till I'm home from uni at 8pm, so will call them then, and most likely organise onsite time...

This is the same problems that I am having on the very same iMac. Not even 6 months old and I am up to my third format. Tonight it has again shitee itself after a week since the last format. Apple is giving me the same run around.

They said I could take it into a apple store but I would be charged for it.

It is now beyond a joke for me too.

Keep us informed.

Got my 24 inch on Friday! The step up from the old 17 inch G5 is amazing. I was a little apprehensive about the glossy screen, but using it over the weekend I had zero problems with glare/reflection.

What are NextByte like for after sales support ? Im thinking of getting the 24" Imac from them tomorrow. First time I have ever seen there store.

As Im a first time Mac purchaser is there much margin to play with ?

now i recognize the logic in what you, and others, are saying, but it's just that that course of actions doesn't sound like as much fun as my warped/demented idea.

The general view on here is skewed towards them not being a good place to buy from or get support from. Mention what city you are in and you'll get a few recommendations of better stores on here.

No. You may be able to get discounts with certain bundles but dealers have slim margins on Apple gear and so will rarely cut anything on price.

I like to think so!

Funny, the bank wasn't so sure. I blew $6200 in two VISA transactions in 50 minutes. First was new CS3 (death to Pagemaker! Earnt this upgrade doubly so!) and then collecting the machine. Nice St George phone lady rang 5 minutes after the second transaction and I told her "I know why you're ringing, it scares me too".

I've been living dirty a little this year - my partner has a pretty solid Windows machine with CS3 on it, so I've been running some work on the pedal powered G4 and some on the soul-raper PC.

I get CS3 delivered tomorrow I hope so I can transcent this middle ground mire in approximately 18 hours.

That's Gold! CS3 is the bizzzzzzz

Make sure to factor in the 5 times you need to reinstall it before the whole thing stays installed ;-)

"The install failed because one of the components failed."

Hmmm.. Which component? Take a look in the 35K line install log! Yay.

elSpike out.