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Old 25-11-2004, 01:48 PM
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I wonder if apple will lower the core image specs on final release of tiger. I mean, new ibooks not being supported is quite silly, really.
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Old 25-11-2004, 02:41 PM
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I wonder if apple will lower the core image specs on final release of tiger. I mean, new ibooks not being supported is quite silly, really.
Apart from the Dell 8600 specials ($1000 off), that's the only thing stopping me from picking up an iBook atm... although I might just get the buying impulse one day soon and go down the local AppleShop and tell the cute saleschick to get me one of those little beauties :P
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Old 25-11-2004, 03:07 PM
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Wow. I never knew Apple kept 7 years pf parts available. That's pretty amazing.
Yeah and you'd be amazed how many people think this is too short.

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Old 25-11-2004, 03:27 PM
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I wonder if apple will lower the core image specs on final release of tiger. I mean, new ibooks not being supported is quite silly, really.
I dont think at the radeon 9200 supports pixel processing, so I doubt the spec will be lowered

to bad they couldnt put a modified 12" powerbook logic board in there with the fx5200, at least that supports core image
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Does that mean upgrading to the next OSX will be a no go?
Presumably Panther will still be fine though..
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you will still be able to use osx 10.4, just that the core image features wont be used
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My non mac buddy needed a replacement portable after his old one got stolen sometime ago. He seen my powerbook and kinda loved osx.

He ended up buying you guessed it, a new 12" ibook.

That makes 2 converts since I got my powerbook
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I think the Core Image effects will work on the iBooks, but not as intense. The effects in Tiger in Dashboard work in a iMac with a GeForce 2.
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Old 25-11-2004, 04:53 PM
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It's the other way around. THe Windows is the cheaper but the total cost of ownership is higher.
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Old 26-11-2004, 02:06 AM
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Apple have a lower TCO than Wintel due to the fact that Macs are less vunerable to virus, worms, spyware and hardware problems are really a big issue.

Stuff it, I'm gonna do the math.

Say we have a business. that business has 100 employees. 1 PC for each employee and that pc cost $2000. that equals $200,000. Warrenty on the machines is 2 years.

say on average, since this is a wintel business, they go down (virus) 5 times in the year. 5 full days. now there is 100 employees wages that still have to be paid (8 hour days, $15 an hour). thats $12,000 a day or $60,000 for the whole 5 days. plus charges to get fixed. say, $5000 for the whole year ($1000 a day).

for the first year alone, owning a wintel system costs ~$265,000. thats $530,000 for 2 years.

now say we have the same busness (100 employees, 100 pcs). Since this is a Mac business now, the PC price is $2500 (ball park, i know not accurate). that equals 25000. since macs more or less never get a virus. we dont have to pay workers for lost productivity or IT charges. so that truely is $500,000 for 2 years. 30,000 cheaper.

Granted, not entirely accurate or true, since owning Wintel needs to have an IT department of its own at that size. which i didnt include.

hmmm....
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Old 26-11-2004, 08:27 AM
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I might hold off a bit and see what happens. I don't like the thought of the iBook not working with the new OS at its best, and also having to buy more RAM (maybe they'll up the default from 256Mb for the new OS).
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Apple have a lower TCO than Wintel due to the fact that Macs are less vunerable to virus, worms, spyware and hardware problems are really a big issue.

I agree, I'm lucky, though I'm still using a PC (mac is on order) I have had a friend that has been able to sort out "issues" ie: viruses, worms, spy bots etc. I'm not that computer literate (though learning fast) so usually I am unable to sort these things on my own. If it wasn't for my friend I would be relying on expensive computer techs (nerds) to perform the same ongoing repairs

I can't rely on my mate to supply lifetime service to my PC, so therefore an Apple OS is the answer for me.

I feel that with an Apple OS there will be less instances of hardware/software failure, and I will be more likely able to deal with them on my own. With a little help from AppleTalk Forum.
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I might hold off a bit and see what happens. I don't like the thought of the iBook not working with the new OS at its best, and also having to buy more RAM (maybe they'll up the default from 256Mb for the new OS).
It probably is a good idea to hold off. Tiger is probably just a few months away now, at earliest January next year, but more like to be near April or June. By holding off a bit, you will probably get a better machine, might even be a G5 iBook eh?
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Old 26-11-2004, 11:11 AM
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(maybe they'll up the default from 256Mb for the new OS).
Not likely... All the new G5 iMac's are still being shipped with only 256Mb and it will be rare of apple to bump that up anytime soon in my oppinion.

Although since your not in a rush it is wise to wait till the release of tiger, maybe G5's will be introduced to all notebook range?! :lol: Oh no! That means depreciation on my G4 Powerbook
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Hmm seems my attention has drifted to a 15" powerbook.
I'd replace my Desktop PC for one of them.
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