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Old 03-03-2006, 06:56 PM
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Got my iMAC 20in intel yesterday...

Using;

PS CS

Ill CS

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Office 2004

Very slow when running PS, Illus, indesign with word an entourage open. Spinning Ball!!!!

512mb.

My old g3 400 b&w with 1gig of ram – switching back and fouth is quicker!!!

What seems to be the problem here?

More RAM?
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:02 PM
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It's either a G5 or intel, not both....

If you have an intel iMac, ... Adobe software is running in rosetta. An emulation.

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Old 03-03-2006, 07:07 PM
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I have set up 3 of these at work so far (Intel). One with 512mb, others with 1gb.

Without a doubt 512mb is not enough if you do anything beyond web, mail, word etc.

With 1gb PS CS2, DW8 etc work quite well.
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Originally posted by MacMatt@Mar 3 2006, 07:02 PM
It's either a G5 or intel, not both....

If you have an intel iMac, ... Adobe software is running in rosetta. An emulation.
Whichs means what in th context of things...new Adobe ceative suite?? Or more RAM?



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As macmatt said, it can't be both a G5 AND and intel imac.

But I'm assuming that you got an intel imac, and software in rosetta emulation is slow with 2GB ram, let alone 512mb.

Adobe won't be distributing Intel Mac native versions of its software until sometime next year, so your best option would be to give your imac some more ram (rosetta uses A LOT), or if you really, really need fast performance on the Adobe apps now you might have to trade your intel imac in for a G5.
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:15 PM
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I have set up 3 of these at work so far (Intel). One with 512mb, others with 1gb.

Without a doubt 512mb is not enough if you do anything beyond web, mail, word etc.

With 1gb PS CS2, DW8 etc work quite well.
What kind of RAM do I need... I'll go to mr cheap PC chinese man get some tomorrow?


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512M / 1G Samsung DDR2 “HOT” $65 / $125
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As macmatt said, it can't be both a G5 AND and intel imac.

But I'm assuming that you got an intel imac, and software in rosetta emulation is slow with 2GB ram, let alone 512mb.

Adobe won't be distributing Intel Mac native versions of its software until sometime next year, so your best option would be to give your imac some more ram (rosetta uses A LOT), or if you really, really need fast performance on the Adobe apps now you might have to trade your intel imac in for a G5.
What about Office, Firefox,... Whats the bloody point of releaseing a PC with no Software!! How hard could it be concerning they make PC windows verison of the same software!
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I'd so love one of those machines GenX but the emulation benchmark figures for CS are only at around 50% of the G5's that preceded them.

That makes for far too many beachballs doesn't it...

I wonder if you jumped too soon :unsure:
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:26 PM
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:27 PM
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I just ordered a mac mini intel Core Duo which will be my main machine with only 512MB Ram and i hope i can get more out of it then just mail and web browsing.
But like you Genx i too will basically be only using PPC Applications on the Mini and i have to say i hope it wont be full of too many beachballs, but i guess if i really need to do something fast then i still have my 1.25Ghz eMac G4.
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:28 PM
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I'd so love one of those machines GenX but the emulation benchmark figures for CS are only at around 50% of the G5's that preceded them.

That makes for far too many beachballs doesn't it...

I wonder if you jumped too soon :unsure:
SO its only for ADOBE products?
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What about Office, Firefox,... Whats the bloody point of releaseing a PC with no Software!! How hard could it be concerning they make PC windows verison of the same software!
I have an Intel imac, and it is perfect for my needs, as I just swiched for windows and don't use much PPC native software.

All the software the the intel imac comes with- the operating system, ilife, iwork etc is all native to intel and PPC (universal software) and so it runs fine on both platforms.

However, companies such as adobe and Microsoft arn't going to release a patch for their current programs to run natively on intel mac, instead they will release intel native version when their software is usually has a major upgrade (version 2.0 to 3.0, for example), so that is around 2007 for both companies. That *could* (but mabye not) mean that you have to pay to upgrade these programs.

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SO it only for ADOBE products?
No, it is for any software maker who hasn't converter their software to universal (intel and PPC) applications.

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SO its only for ADOBE products?
Nope, it's anything that hasn't yet written their code in 'universal binaries'.

But you'll feel it most with the CS and Macromedia(now Adobe as well..) Apps. They are CPU and RAM hungry monsters that DEMAND to be fed!

The CS3 apps will be in universal but they won't be rewriting the older versions, so CS2 will always be slower on your '2x Faster' machine.

I'll get one still though, but only with the CS3 apps


(edit) err.. yeah, what he just said.
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Old 03-03-2006, 08:42 PM
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I use an Intel iMac 20" at work, heavily using rosetta apps.

It has 2gb of ram and I run multiple apps at the speed of around a 1.5ghz G4, not too slow at all really.

I think they put a low amount of ram in the computers so that the price appears lower. As has been the case with Macs the last few years, the ram it comes with severly limits the computers speed. It is necessary to put as much ram in as you can afford.
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