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Old 14th August 2007, 10:03 AM
 
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Question Stopping Pages/Numbers Files Compressing

When I try to attach a Pages or Numbers file to an e-mail (via Entourage) it compresses it as a *.sit file.
This is no good to me as when sent to a non Mac user they can't expand it.
Any ideas on how I stop Entourage doing this?
Only options which appear are Cancel or Compress, and Cancel means you can't attach the file.
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Old 14th August 2007, 10:19 AM
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Are you sending the file as a pages file??
Or as a PDF or Word doc or something else?
Pages won't open for PC anyway - let alone sit.
Turn it into a PDF...
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Sending it as a Pages file as supposedly (stated on Apple iWorks08 site) you can open a Pages file in Word (and vice versa) and the same with Numbers and Excel.
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In Entourage Preferences, under Compose- Attachments:
Encode - for any computer
Compression - none.

This will send it as a native file.

But I thought you had to export to .xls or .doc format in Numbers and Pages before sending ??
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In Entourage under Mail & News prefs - there is the compose window.
Do you have compression turned on for attachments??

Edit - beaten to it
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I just tried to see if word would open a pages document and it is a total no go under Office 2004 they stay greyed out and under Office 2007 on a PC the same thing nothing.

You would have to use the export from the file menu in pages and export it as a word .doc file before word on either mac or pc can read it.
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I did look at the preferences and encode is selected for any computer and compression isn't "ticked".

Re exporting to *.xls or *.doc format, my reading of the Apple web site is that you simply choose open with and it will open.
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On my Mac I was able to open a Word file in Pages and vice versa without exporting.
(Did the same with Numbers and Excel).
I now want to try this on my work PC but I can't e-mail it from home to work to do so (hence this post).

Slightly off topic does anyone know how you can uncompress a *.sit file on a PC????
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download stuffit expander for pc

Also why not use mail?
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I can open word files in pages without any problems but pages files in word it a total no go for me.
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mac_man_luke, do you think mail will solve the entourage compressing problem?
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I send .docs and .pdfs (strongly recommended over .doc) exported from Pages, with Mail all the time, no worries.
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Do you have an 'unzip' program on your PC? Just hold down Control, and click on the file name, choose "create archive of [filename]", and this will create a '.zip' file which you could send to your PC...
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I did look at the preferences and encode is selected for any computer and compression isn't "ticked".
On my Entourage Preference window under compose, Encode and Compression are both drown down lists.
Compression has the options none or Macintosh (Stuffit)

I'm running version 11.3.6.

I am running on a PC network with Entourage connected to an Exchange Server and attachments send without compression.
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Pages (in fact any iWork application) files are not flat documents but are actually a special kind of folder called a package that OS X presents as a single file in Finder. There is no way to send a Pages file without "compressing" it because the folder must be kept in tact with all of the files and sub-folders intact.

Entourage is not compressing the file to make it smaller (although that is an added benefit) but because that is the only way it can send the Pages "folder" in one piece.

I think you have read too much into Apple's marketing material. They are referring to the export function when they say that you can open a Pages file in Word.
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Slightly off topic does anyone know how you can uncompress a *.sit file on a PC????
Easily with Stuffit Expander for Windows.
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Old 14th August 2007, 03:30 PM
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Well done Nard.

I just tried emailing a numbers attachment with Entourage as a test.
Upon attempting to attach the file a dialogue comes up saying it can only be attached if compressed. OK -and it attaches, appears in the attachment list as a numbers file. Send- and it arrives compressed with a .sit extension.
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